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>Number:         13696
>Category:       advocacy
>Synopsis:       FreeBSD logo
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       serious
>Priority:       high
>Responsible:    freebsd-advocacy
>State:          closed
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:  
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sat Sep 11 04:30:01 PDT 1999
>Closed-Date:    Sat Sep 11 14:58:02 PDT 1999
>Last-Modified:  Mon Sep 13 14:00:00 PDT 1999
>Originator:     Gene T George
>Release:        FreeBSD 2.2.8
>Organization:
>Environment:
>Description:
Everybody says that FreeBSD is fantastic and rock stable. I found that there is truth in it. But I am not pleased to see a devil's emblem to be used for FreeBSD logo.
>How-To-Repeat:

>Fix:
Change the logo to something professional.

>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:

From: lnb@cybertouch.org
To: gthalapp@hotmail.com
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: RE: advocacy/13696: FreeBSD logo
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 09:12:32 -0400 (EDT)

 What? You would like to change that little devil? 
 What the heck is wrong with it. It's unique, cute and ingenious. It is NOT
 evil. 
 
 Whats with the info below? Just out of curiosity. 
 
 Have a good day and please post the anwer back to the list. I can't beleive I
 am sending mail to hotmail.com. 
 
 On 11-Sep-99 gthalapp@hotmail.com wrote:
 > 
 >>Number:         13696
 >>Category:       advocacy
 >>Synopsis:       FreeBSD logo
 >>Confidential:   no
 >>Severity:       serious
 >>Priority:       high
 >>Responsible:    freebsd-advocacy
 >>State:          open
 >>Quarter:        
 >>Keywords:       
 >>Date-Required:
 >>Class:          change-request
 >>Submitter-Id:   current-users
 >>Arrival-Date:   Sat Sep 11 04:30:01 PDT 1999
 >>Closed-Date:
 >>Last-Modified:
 >>Originator:     Gene T George
 >>Release:        FreeBSD 2.2.8
 >>Organization:
 >>Environment:
 >>Description:
 > Everybody says that FreeBSD is fantastic and rock stable. I found that there
 > is truth in it. But I am not pleased to see a devil's emblem to be used for
 > FreeBSD logo.
 >>How-To-Repeat:
 > 
 >>Fix:
 > Change the logo to something professional.
 > 
 >>Release-Note:
 >>Audit-Trail:
 >>Unformatted:
 > 
 > 
 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
 > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
 
 Lanny Baron
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 lnb@cybertouch.org
 11-Sep-99, 09:12:32
 Renning's Maxim:
 	Man is the highest animal.  Man does the classifying.
 
 
 FreeBSD+Samba=A total solution for file servers and a ton more... 
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State-Changed-From-To: open->closed 
State-Changed-By: billf 
State-Changed-When: Sat Sep 11 14:58:02 PDT 1999 
State-Changed-Why:  
1) Priority: High? You must have lots of time on your hands, but we don't. 
2) The daemon is not 'evil'. There are a million explanations that you will receieve 
however, I will simply point you to http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html 

Thank you. 

From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org>
To: gthalapp@hotmail.com
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: advocacy/13696: FreeBSD logo
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:46:12 +0100

 Yow.  Everyone's been taking grumpy pills recently.
 
 Gene, you sent in this PR;
 
 > >Number:         13696
 > >Synopsis:       FreeBSD logo
 > >Description:
 > Everybody says that FreeBSD is fantastic and rock stable. I found that there is truth in it. But I am not pleased to see a devil's emblem to be used for FreeBSD logo.
 > >How-To-Repeat:
 > 
 > >Fix:
 > Change the logo to something professional.
 
 This, basically, isn't going to happen, as other people have pointed 
 out.  The little horned guy ("beastie") in the FreeBSD (and NetBSD,
 OpenBSD, and quite possibly BSDi) logo has a long heritage with the
 BSD operating system.
 
 You can find a little more information about this at
 
     http://www.FreeBSD.org/copyright/daemon.html
 
 which includes quotes, links to earlier pictures, and a company you can
 buy stuffed daemon plushies from.
 
 In the meantime, don't be surprised if this PR gets closed :-)
 
 N
 -- 
  [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed,
  non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs
  the links.
     -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu>
 
>Unformatted:
