From: hoelzer@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Matthias Hoelzer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce
Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.windows.x.kde
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 08:27:15 GMT
Organization: none
Approved: linux-announce@news.ornl.gov (Mikko Rauhala)
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                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
                 unmoderated group comp.windows.x.kde

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.windows.x.kde. This is
not a Call for Votes (CfV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural
details are below.


CHANGES from previous RFD:

This RfD is the result of the discussion concerning the RfD to create a
newsgroup "comp.unix.kde". To summarize the discussion, there was noone
against creating a newsgroup about the K Desktop Environment, but some
arguments that the name would be inappropriate. "comp.windows.x.kde" was
considered to be more in line with the existing hierarchy. Other than
concerning the name, this RfD is identical to "1. RfD comp.unix.kde".


Newsgroup line:
comp.windows.x.kde	The K Desktop Environment.


RATIONALE: comp.windows.x.kde

The K Desktop Environment (KDE, http://www.kde.org) is a free software
project to provide a user friendly graphical desktop for Unix operating
systems. The group "comp.windows.x.kde" should be created to give the users
of KDE a forum for discussion.

Currently, all discussion about the KDE takes place in form of mailing
lists. At the moment, there are 20 mailing lists with up to 5000
subscribers, averaging more than 300 messages per day. Note that these
numbers have been valid during the beta-phase of the KDE.

With the release of the first non-beta-version, 1.0, on 12 July 1998,
the number of users is expected to increase considerably. Many of them
would probably subscribe to "comp.windows.x.kde".

Avoiding the spread of KDE related postings to other newsgroups like
comp.os.linux.misc is another strong argument in favor of a separate group.


CHARTER: comp.windows.x.kde

The group comp.windows.x.kde is intended for the discussion of user
problems with the KDE. This includes questions about installation, use
and optimization of the K Desktop Environment. Proposals for new
features and improvements are also welcome.

The group is not intended for postings about KDE programming, bug reports or
licensing discussions. Please continue to use the appropriate mailing lists
for these issues (see http://www.kde.org/lists.html for further
information).

Explicitly discouraged are the posting of commercial advertisements,
any kind of flaming and personal arguments, as well as the posting of
binaries of any kind.

END CHARTER.


PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For
Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion
warrants it.  Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these
documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.


DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
  comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.announce,
  de.alt.comp.kde, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.linux.x


and the following mailing lists:

  kde-announce@kde.org (announcements concerning KDE)
          Subscribe via: kde-announce-request@kde.org

  kde@kde.org (general discussion about KDE)
          Subscribe via: kde-request@kde.org

  kde-devel@kde.org (KDE developers mailing list)
          Subscribe via: kde-devel-request@kde.org

  kde-user@kde.org (KDE users mailing list)
          Subscribe via: kde-user-request@kde.org

Proponent: Matthias Hoelzer <hoelzer@kde.org>



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