# incomplete export control terms and conditions ?

Navindra Umanee (navindra@cs.mcgill.ca)
Sat, 5 Jul 1997 22:26:56 +0400

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    Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 22:26:56 +0400

    From: Navindra Umanee <navindra@cs.mcgill.ca>

    To: java-security@web2.javasoft.com

    Subject: incomplete export control terms and conditions ?

Mauritius Sat Jul 5 22:23:16 1997

The requirement for downloading the JCE on the pages preceding the
download page was:

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By downloading this software you acknowledge that you are a United
States or Canadian citizen, United States or Canadian permanent
resident, or a protected indiviudal as defined by U.S. Immigration
Laws. You further acknowledge that you are not a party that is listed
in the United States Denied {Person} Listing or U.S. Treasury
Department's list of Specially Designated Nationals.

By downloading this software, I acknowledge that I have read and fully
understand the foregoing information and agree to abide by its terms
and conditions.
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Well, I am a Canadian citizen so I went ahead with the
download. Halfway through the download (I stopped the download), I
came across this in the README:

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The JCE is available within the U.S. and Canada only. It may not be
exported outside the U.S. or Canada. When you downloaded the software
and agreed to the terms of the license, you agreed to comply with all
U.S. laws and regulations concerning export of this software. Be
aware that if you export this software outside the U.S. or Canada, you
are liable of violating U.S. laws. For more information on
U.S. encyption policies, refer to these web sites:
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Heh. I _am_ a Canadian but I'm currently _not_ in Canada. Your U.S.
laws and regulations suck but I believe you should make it clearer on
the download page that the software is not to be downloaded outside of
the U.S. and Canada.

I believe I'm allowed to download and work with the JCE from a
Canadian site (eg skinner.cs.mcgill.ca) even though I'm not in Canada?
Thanks,

Navin

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