Posts by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
(DIR) Post #AYMBHvNTXVfJdSHBPk by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T14:44:21Z
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@thatguyoverthere __ You made the assumption that because I called out the hypocrisy that I was somehow advocating for 1) money printing, 2) sending the cluster munitions, and 3) paying "war companies." You're wrong on all three counts. You need to stop assuming things. But I'm also a pragmatist, and if government is going to do anything it ought to help people whose lives and property are being illegally invaded.
(DIR) Post #AYMBNqMR6XtnoVc2FM by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T14:45:25Z
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@electronwarier My intelligence comment was for SirJoho, not you.
(DIR) Post #AYMBfRQOYUJpgir6O0 by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T14:48:35Z
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@electronwarier __ Well, according to multiple Human Rights Watch investigations Russia was using cluster munitions in Eastern Ukraine as far back as 2014-2015. Russia funded and armed the secessionists (who were made up mostly of ex-Russian military, known Russian Nazi militias, and other Russian gangs sent into Ukraine) to create a civil conflict as a pretext for invasion. They did the same in Georgia in 2008, and Chechnya. It's an old Russian tactic.
(DIR) Post #AYMC3wDphdpk9df1CC by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T14:53:01Z
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@thatguyoverthere >> "it's not the printing that NAP might conflict with. It's the giving it to war companies"...Yes, that exactly what I said. It's NOT the money printing that's in conflict with the NAP. So, since you now agree with my reply how are you calling me illogical? You just repeated what I fucking said. It's the TAXATION that is a violation of the NAP. Not the money printing. Hell, I can print money in my back yard without violating the NAP. Money printing pre-exists government.
(DIR) Post #AYMCEg6lxDuZMbTmee by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T14:54:58Z
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@thatguyoverthere ___You may have missed my previous reply. I already told you I'm opposed to taxation for any reason, including buying munitions to send to ukraine. I NEVER once said that I supported sending munitions to ukraine. You made that assumption merely because I called out the hypocrisy of people who complain about it while not giving two shits about Russia pouring out white phosphorus on civilians almost daily.
(DIR) Post #AYMCYxh4HWpdhB81FA by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T14:58:38Z
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@thatguyoverthere I'm an anarchist. HOWEVER, I would also add that I'm a pragmatist. We're not going to have a stateless society over-night. And as far as I'm concerned the LAST thing we should stop funding is our own defense, & the defense of innocent people. So, in principle I don't support taxation in general, including military spending and foreign military aid, but I'm also not an idiot enough to pretend letting RU and China take over the world is going to lead to a free world.
(DIR) Post #AYMCo7XfwnqmaFxn6m by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T15:01:22Z
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@thatguyoverthere - You're failing to make a distinction between GOVERNMENT printing money, and banks, etc., printing money. No shit, if the GOVERNMENT prints money they violate the NAP to tax people to pay it back. But my point was that money printing in and of itself Is not a violation of the NAP because it's possible for private entities to print money that doesn't require taxation to pay back. Like banks, etc. So saying that Money printing in itself violates the NAP isn't true.
(DIR) Post #AYMDX8L5pZ9I5SXeU4 by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T15:09:30Z
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@jake73s __ absolutely incorrect. These are photos of the Iron Dome anti-missile defense. What you see in the photo I posted is white phosphorous cluster munitions.
(DIR) Post #AYMDm7yDU7RJHozVwW by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T15:12:12Z
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@1over7 @jake73s You are totally wrong. These are photos of the Iron Dome. The photo I posted was of cluster munitions. They work, and look, completely different. The iron dome doesn't explode in the sky and drop a cluster of munitions as soon in the photo I posted. The iron dome fires several rockets into the air to intercept missiles and they burn out and separate long before the hit the ground. Unlike my photo containing a close cluster of many smaller munitions.
(DIR) Post #AYMDwfCemRzXFhllbs by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T15:14:07Z
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@jake73s THIS is what cluster munitions look like - just like what was in the original photo I posted. Much different than missile defense systems.
(DIR) Post #AYMEAVq0OhH8GCmJ3w by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T15:16:37Z
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@1over7 THIS is what cluster munitions look like - just like what was in the original photo I posted. Much different than missile defense systems. My photo is of white phosphorus cluster mentions.
(DIR) Post #AYMEJbd4Ec2qpP3wCO by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T15:18:16Z
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@1over7 @jake73s Human Rights Watch reported on some of the civilian deaths caused by Russia's dropping of cluster munitions on civilian areas. https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/07/06/ukraine-civilian-deaths-cluster-munitions
(DIR) Post #AYMEt7BusaiUqrILaq by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T15:24:41Z
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@1over7 @jake73s Please for fuck sake do some research. Watch these videos and you'll see the obvious difference between Missile Defense (Iron Dome) and Cluster Munitions. The image I posted iS clearly cluster mentions. Cluster Munitions: https://twitter.com/franakviacorka/status/1525799567446482946?s=61&t=Xz9-4v72xgvV1cZgH83wKgIron Dome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eSZaCHXBVA
(DIR) Post #AYMFKDloWjer4h0jmy by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T15:29:35Z
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@thatguyoverthere Okay, replace 'innocent people' with 'people who didn't attack Russia first.' You know what I meant. As for the rest of your reply, I agree with your criticism of US policy 100%. As to the chemicals in the water, I totally agree. Killer bees I'm not that worried about, yet. Turning a blind eye to Russia's plans for Europe via their Eurasian Union is very naive. Same with China. Isolationism isn't the answer...not yet anyway. I look forward to a stateless society though.
(DIR) Post #AYMFaCOLQ6ifQseUIC by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T15:32:28Z
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@thatguyoverthere We're kind of getting in the weeds at this point. My point is technically correct, money printing itself is not a variation of the NAP, because not all money printing requires government, or taxation. That was my point.
(DIR) Post #AYMFhGUWZlumAsubjc by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T15:33:45Z
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@thatguyoverthere Money pre-existed government. And has existed outside of government through out human history. Today cryptocurrencies exist outside of government, for example. Ancient societies who didn't have government utilized money in various forms.
(DIR) Post #AYMFtoMGUBa8gZ1zsG by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T15:36:01Z
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@thatguyoverthere I'm not saying you "need to care." My post was just calling out the hypocrisy of people who complained about how horrible it was that the US was sending cluster munitions to Ukraine while Russia is using cluster munitions on civilians on an ongoing basis. You don't have to care. But I do, because as a libertarian I believe in liberty for everyone, and care about liberty for everyone. And right now Ukrainian civilians are being killed by Russia, that's anti-liberty.
(DIR) Post #AYMGBVSZUJRdHnQ1VQ by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T15:39:13Z
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@thatguyoverthere You claim I didn't state my position. Haha. Here's my original post. I think it's really fucking clear. "Americans complain about US giving Ukraine cluster munitions, meanwhile Russia pulls this shit almost daily." I'm obviously criticizing those who complain about the cluster mutinous sent to Ukraine while not giving two shits about what Russia is doing to Ukraine.
(DIR) Post #AYMGOckPhfmreZ1Fgm by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T15:41:35Z
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@electronwarier Apparently you didn't read my reply very closely. I said, according to multiple "Human Rights Watch" investigations...Human Rights Watch is the name of the group. They're an independent human rights group that was VERY critical of the US wars in Middle East, as I was. SO they are not biased for, or against. But I find it interesting that you're more interested in their "allegiances" than in their factual accuracy. Caring about someone's allegiances is a logical fallacy.
(DIR) Post #AYMGlbntNYHPO0beS0 by zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com
2023-08-03T15:45:44Z
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@electronwarier Yes, I know that Hitler didn't like the term NAZI. That has NOTHING to do with what I'm saying. Putin has close ties to some of these Nazi leaders. He has verifiably used them in Ukraine multiple times. I can send you the details. One of the leaders in Russian-held Donbas right now was a leader of Russian-backed 'nazi' faction. But this doesn't really matter. My point was that Russia funded and armed the conflict in Donas over ten years ago.