Posts by zack@stereophonic.space
(DIR) Post #AUw3AyAi6RZdbL7BPE by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-04-22T23:44:12.275105Z
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@MelodyCooper @freemo @pies The UK was the point of comparison you’re ignoring. Clearly banning weapons hasn’t done them as much good as they wanted it to.
(DIR) Post #AUw3CuXYZl9Ouwj7g0 by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-04-22T23:54:59.532312Z
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@freemo @MelodyCooper @pies I bet residual lead levels in the water gives a stronger correlation with murder rate than the gun regulations.
(DIR) Post #AUwERy5skEOPmKAGhc by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-04-23T08:38:16.042515Z
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@pies @freemo @MelodyCooper You clearly aren’t familiar with gun laws in the US if you think anyone can get full auto here. What a shock, another anti gun person who doesn’t even know what they’re arguing against.
(DIR) Post #AUyiZ2OMY5Cw4p12Bc by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-04-23T08:59:11.504529Z
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@MelodyCooper @pies @freemo I could easily point to the shooting in France at that eagles of death metal concert, where lots of weapons got through in a stricter setting than the US. There will always be ways around the issue including home made weapons which are getting more robust every year that completely dodge the question of regulation to begin with.
(DIR) Post #AUyiZ3WYL7LxaVr5ai by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-04-23T09:55:26.824191Z
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@freemo @pies @MelodyCooper If we’re shifting goalposts now to mass shootings, the US doesn’t have the worst per capita death rate related to that. Also, most of those mass shootings in that statistic are gang related, which also confounds your clearly well formed opinion even if you wanted to say that study was outdated. You clearly just want to preach, which is fine I guess.
(DIR) Post #AUyiZ4tzDTgxrTpJku by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-04-23T15:29:29.728960Z
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@freemo @MelodyCooper @pies The point was that there will always be a way to get past regulations. That it can happen in tightly regulated places too, so picking out one of the rare instances where a shooter could actually afford a full auto is disingenuous at best. Not to mention you ignored the most common form of mass shooting: gang conflicts - often perpetrated with guns that weren’t legally acquired in the first place. And it’s all meaningless anyways since everyone is at most a $2500 mini-cnc machine away from having basically any gun they want these days. Bullets might be the harder part of that equation actually, but they’re also pretty easy to make, I’m pretty sure I know someone who’s made both.
(DIR) Post #AUyiZ6AgUsdvnYeAQC by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-04-23T16:42:18.181389Z
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@MelodyCooper @freemo @pies Our gang violence is pretty substantial here, probably more so than most developed countries. Just because you want to ignore this doesn’t make it untrue. Please stop changing topics.
(DIR) Post #AUyiZ7FKV5x98FpOIi by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-04-23T17:06:38.307515Z
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@freemo @pies @MelodyCooper I think you need to consider that even if you took away all gun violence the murder rate in the US would still be high, many times higher than most developed countries - guns are clearly very far from the main problem here. I’m trying really hard to be good faith and polite here, but I haven’t seen any sign of that from you whatsoever. I could point to any number of stats, but because any single one of them doesn’t account for the entire discrepancy it won’t matter to you, you’ll just jump to an entirely different subject or ignore it.
(DIR) Post #AUyiZ8uqIEkmJIG3e4 by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-04-23T17:56:31.255045Z
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@freemo @pies @MelodyCooper Again, even without guns it’s over that line.
(DIR) Post #AUyiZA3O3xBNq5GObQ by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-04-24T10:30:39.318064Z
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@MelodyCooper @freemo @pies Did you seriously think the entire difference was just in guns?
(DIR) Post #AV34zrhBOvWOLRr7lQ by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-04-25T17:07:26.443664Z
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@freemo @pies @MelodyCooper More like it isn’t conclusive science because there is no experiment to be done. But you could find a general direction with this kind of observational data, just be careful you might not like what other conclusions you could get with this kind of analysis.
(DIR) Post #AV34zstGxSmo3EWIFM by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-04-26T08:28:46.202525Z
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@MelodyCooper @freemo @pies Another conclusion, would be that maybe there’s more than one factor in this discussion. I know this might be a little sophisticated for a person like you, but there are a lot of differences between the US and Europe that extends past guns. Give that you weren’t aware that new SMGs aren’t legal to purchase in the US, you might also not be aware that different states have differing laws and general circumstances. For example, the Deep South has high rates of poverty - you can see large chunks of those states might not even have access to power. Is their rate of violent crime and murder due to guns or poverty? Yes, the United States are not totally uniform - which is important.
(DIR) Post #AV4FVLu0KuK9hrSwme by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-04-26T22:55:32.606540Z
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@freemo @MelodyCooper @pies Why keep talking when you’re clearly never going to change your mind. You clearly don’t know much, but have a strong opinion anyways. You can go run along with your rape whistle and hope the cops get there in time.
(DIR) Post #AVAbFXljoQCVoiE48m by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-04-28T15:25:34.701724Z
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Just because you say something lots of times doesn’t make it reflective of reality. You’d make for a really shitty scientist. Why do Oregon and Utah have fewer murders per capita than California then? Both have more guns and fewer regulations on those guns - granted Oregon does have a measure that passed but hasn’t been implemented yet. Must be the guns dropping the murder rate, right? This is basically the same logic you’ve been using the entire time. Crime rate in general - including murder - in the US dropped around the time concealed carry started being allowed in more states. Maybe you don’t understand how data works, but your 2 variable bullshit won’t cut it.
(DIR) Post #AVAbFYyBLdkVXb3WAy by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-04-29T22:06:03.459573Z
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@pies @freemo @MelodyCooper that’s a funny way to admit that you were talking out of your ass.
(DIR) Post #AVBDQXzP85n7wbIB0K by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-04-30T14:07:19.764340Z
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@freemo @MelodyCooper @pies Genuinely feels like arguing with an antivaxxer.
(DIR) Post #AVHRuyva6PRYUCfbNY by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-05-03T14:19:40.858975Z
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@coolboymew @nosleep @Moon China is already shifting to nuclear and solar, as it turns out they don’t like the smog either.
(DIR) Post #AVHTUk8EgruEycCn56 by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-05-03T14:33:21.681258Z
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@coolboymew @nosleep @moth_ball @Moon Do you understand why they did that? It’s because it meets their growing energy needs faster. They are also building massive amounts of nuclear and solar.
(DIR) Post #AVM8aS8fNHRDf95UhM by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-05-05T20:36:16.953928Z
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@xerz It involves evergreen trees and your mom’s house.
(DIR) Post #AXFLRtf3Etpmiw46gy by zack@stereophonic.space
2023-07-01T09:41:25.136234Z
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@EricZhang456 @m0xee Yes