Posts by tqwhite@mastodon.social
(DIR) Post #AhIUV1AEYozAqUltLc by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-04-27T00:49:39Z
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@Radical_EgoCom @Bron1954 @coffeepine I agree with that. Also, when people equate zionism with Israeli politics they are wrong.
(DIR) Post #AhIVcqQCU6yPncXGka by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-04-27T01:02:16Z
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@Radical_EgoCom @Bron1954 @coffeepine A government was legally created by the international community. The indigenous Palestinians did not like it and, with the Jew hating local Arab community, attempted to destroy the country. It did not work. I am no fan of Netanyahu but I do not agree with the characterization of genocide.
(DIR) Post #AhIWwvWBLUYLLrTP6W by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-04-27T01:17:06Z
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@Radical_EgoCom @Bron1954 @coffeepine they did not have a government. They had been living under British rule for a long time. It was absolutely not imperialism. Also, where would you have put the Jews?
(DIR) Post #AhIZGST1GYeYx3R2AK by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-04-27T01:43:02Z
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@Radical_EgoCom @Bron1954 @coffeepine You are knowledgeable. Thank you. These are things I know about. The dedication to the homeland was decisive. Also valid in my view.
(DIR) Post #AhLZl8wyKrIguzcDZo by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-04-28T12:32:42Z
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@Radical_EgoCom @Bron1954 @coffeepine I agree. Since that's not what happened, you win.
(DIR) Post #AhM5V5V9P4hekSzceW by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-04-28T18:28:21Z
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@Radical_EgoCom @Bron1954 @coffeepine Except for the part where it is not true, you completely right. Before Israel, there was Britain. Before them, there were nomadic groups and villages, including Jewish ones for decades.
(DIR) Post #AhM6Rn1vis9aXvJgSu by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-04-28T18:32:59Z
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@Radical_EgoCom @Bron1954 @coffeepine While you seem like a nice, smart person, your judgement of validity isn't really important. It was ratified by the international community as a legal country. It is a fact, just as is racist old America. Jews have as good a right to the place as the Palestinians (I would argue better) and when they tried to include them, the Palestinians tried to overthrow Israel.I am very angry about many things Israel but arguing about its right to exist is pointless.
(DIR) Post #AhM79XnBjnNY1qHie8 by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-04-28T18:46:54Z
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@Radical_EgoCom @Bron1954 @coffeepine no. I don’t think any of us get to choose not to live under a government. There are always competing rights. Jews living there had rights, too. The world decided the government is Israel. Palestinians have no more right to change that than Texans get to dissolve the state of Texas.
(DIR) Post #AhM8DQg0Ehrn4VLA5Q by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-04-28T18:48:17Z
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@fnardinator @Radical_EgoCom @Bron1954 @coffeepine You keep saying that and it keeps not being what happened. Nobody was killed to establish Israel. It was done with a legal process. Nobody was killed until people tried to overthrow the government.
(DIR) Post #AhM8OremGTA5w1Dh6u by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-04-28T19:00:51Z
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@Radical_EgoCom @Bron1954 @coffeepine except for the part where it wasn’t a horrible thing. There was no ‘Palestine nation’ that was pushed aside. There was no reason for the people that lived there to be mad about. The constitution of Israel made everyone equal citizens. Nobody was abused until they tried to overthrow. And that decision was, in fact, Jew hatred.
(DIR) Post #AhM8ZJ7B1zJZzSU0hc by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-04-28T19:02:45Z
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@Radical_EgoCom @fnardinator @Bron1954 @coffeepine But that’s silly. There were many Native American governments. Many of them tried to live in peace with the Europeans who weren’t having it. There was an actual government policy to extinguish them. It was completely different.
(DIR) Post #AhM9505LJmPsEnjn9c by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-04-28T19:06:43Z
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@fnardinator @Radical_EgoCom @Bron1954 @coffeepine Why do you have to go all ad hominem? We’re having a perfectly nice argument and you have to get nasty. Stop it.
(DIR) Post #AhM99QmjzRw8Ck9Jq4 by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-04-28T19:09:17Z
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@Radical_EgoCom @Bron1954 @coffeepine I 100% dispute the right to have no government. All places have to have a government. Nobody gets to choose not to. We are all forced to live under a government. Many of us do not prefer the one we get. Sucks to be a human on earth.
(DIR) Post #AhM9KFaXxXsYfEbYUS by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-04-28T19:11:14Z
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@Radical_EgoCom @fnardinator @Bron1954 @coffeepine If I had the same view as you, it wouldn’t be very interesting wouldn’t it? Also, stop saying nasty stuff. I’m not justifying imperialism. As matter@of definition, imperialism is the assertion of government by a larger power over a smaller one. Israel is not that.
(DIR) Post #AhM9gSC1mDSI7wiuwq by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-04-28T19:15:14Z
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@Radical_EgoCom @fnardinator @Bron1954 @coffeepine My line of thinking is that humans band together in societies. Those societies grow and seek additional resources. That leads inevitably to government. One might like to imagine some situation where there was a space for nomads to live independently but if it happened, it would be unstable and exist only until a more powerful societies my asserted authority over it. It’s not what I like. It’s what I consider inevitable and necessary.
(DIR) Post #AhMAULb8ZSLa9VG90C by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-04-28T19:19:20Z
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@louisrcouture @Radical_EgoCom @coffeepine Id say it resembles that in some ways. The difference is that when it israel is a pluralistic society. The Palestinians didn’t want to participate. They tried to overthrow the government and now are not citizens of Israel. They did, in fact, exercise their right not to live with the Jews. But, they never stopped trying to destroy Israel and Israel was not willing to be destroyed. Some similarities but a LOT of differences.
(DIR) Post #AmBO9qGseruIiGbipU by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-09-19T20:58:43Z
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@evacide What a load of crap.1) This was insanely difficult to accomplish. There is no possibility it becomes commonplace.2) It's no worse than making drones flying into civilian villages a weapon.3) Don't be a terrorist carrying terrorist pagers."Hundreds of pagers carried by *Hezbollah members* in Lebanon" (emphasis mine)https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/17/middleeast/lebanon-pager-attack-explosions-hezbollah-explainer-intl-latam/index.html
(DIR) Post #AmjUa3vuHg1vRZaT4a by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-10-06T14:48:12Z
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@futurebird @llewelly I asked GPT to entertain me based on your post. It did a great job.Interesting details about the comparison between us and "experience based creatures" at this link.https://chatgpt.com/share/6702a158-0f00-800c-aa01-d5ebfbac8365
(DIR) Post #AmjUfJ1Tbkavgxh0NM by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-10-06T14:49:08Z
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@futurebird @llewelly An example is"While our "language monkey" mind interprets and categorizes, it also creates separation—we experience an event and then narrate it, effectively splitting experience from analysis. In contrast, other animals may live more in the immediacy of their experiences, which could be described as "direct experience awareness." Their awareness is less compartmentalized, not as parsed into discrete units of thought, feeling, and action as it is with humans."
(DIR) Post #AmjUjzryFMtjjkU1Sa by tqwhite@mastodon.social
2024-10-06T14:50:00Z
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@futurebird @llewelly I felt like that was an interesting point. The separation form reality caused by our internal requirement to map things into language.