Posts by snowdrift@social.coop
(DIR) Post #1324424 by snowdrift@social.coop
2018-11-19T15:00:08Z
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@bob At Snowdrift.coop, we're working on addressing these dilemmas in ways nobody else is tackling. And Nadia's framing is right but just falls way too short.Our response / expansion of her thesis: https://wiki.snowdrift.coop/market-research/history/software/public-software
(DIR) Post #2089555 by snowdrift@social.coop
2018-12-18T23:14:49Z
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@enkiv2 @clacke @alcinnz @Shamar @scolobb @strypey @z428 @Purism @aral @ente Our crowdmatching system at Snowdrift.coop spreads the burden as wide as possible by design.We recognize the problem with uneven influence. We want funding that isn't tied to a few wealth philanthropists (philanthropy is, by nature, an exercise of power).
(DIR) Post #2091371 by snowdrift@social.coop
2018-12-18T23:17:04Z
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@Shamar @strypey @ente @aral @clacke @enkiv2 @scolobb @Purism @z428 > "hope to address the problem of too many similar projects" in direct contrast with this freedom.Reduced fragmentation in practice ≠ reduced freedomForking is an *essential* freedom, but not an end goal in itself. It's a necessary check on the power of any single dominant project and a tool for creativity. But fragmentation isn't itself desirable.
(DIR) Post #2091505 by snowdrift@social.coop
2018-12-19T00:42:57Z
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@Shamar @strypey @ente @aral @clacke @enkiv2 @scolobb @Purism @z428 Fragmentation of *effort*, wheel-reinvention, etc.If we have 10 projects that are all half-done and the same amount of resources (hours of work) could have made 1 or 2 really robust and complete projects, that's what fragmentation is.A better metaphor: Reducing free-software fragmentation is like having a few deep friendships instead of just dozens of friendly acquaintances.
(DIR) Post #2113176 by snowdrift@social.coop
2018-12-19T18:40:26Z
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@Shamar In your posts throughout: too much mind-reading. You put words in others' mouths and mistakenly assume intentions and values.You're imagining disagreements that don't exist.Surely you don't oppose coordination and cooperation, right?We don't propose removing any freedoms for forking, redundancy, wheel-reinvention… they *can* be essential.And using money within our capitalist system isn't endorsing capitalism.@z428 @clacke @aral @ente @enkiv2 @Purism @scolobb
(DIR) Post #2113182 by snowdrift@social.coop
2018-12-19T21:03:24Z
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@Shamar Thanks for the pointed and constructive feedback!We may go ahead and update those texts…But clarification: we're don't *blame* free-software devs. We *celebrate* freedom to hack, fork, etc. — we're just saying it's naive to think that those things will *necessarily* deliver adequate freedoms and ethical software to all. Often cooperation, resources, and explicit ethical *intentions* make the difference in *addition* to hacking.@z428 @clacke @aral @ente @enkiv2 @Purism @scolobb
(DIR) Post #2115857 by snowdrift@social.coop
2018-12-19T22:18:03Z
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@Shamar > "This may indicate merely an increased interest in #FLOSS among developers who would not likely reach their goals under any circumstances"a confusing sentence indeed. Updated to:"Of course, there will always be lots of trials and hacks that don't continue long-term, and that's fine — it just indicates healthy creativity."incidentally, you must've read decent amount of our wiki to see that old floss-funding-history article…@z428 @clacke @aral @ente @enkiv2 @Purism @scolobb
(DIR) Post #9jlyEj14gUBt3GVr5E by snowdrift@social.coop
2019-06-12T13:59:01Z
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@strypey We reluctantly moved to GitLab.com. We considered the other options (we researched them! https://wiki.snowdrift.coop/market-research/flo-repos#flo-source-hosting ) and maybe we will ever move, but fighting battles on principle has cost us a lot up to now. We needed to focus on our core mission. Planning longer blog post about this and other updates soon.
(DIR) Post #ANfq6DeOt4gMEuAIFc by snowdrift@social.coop
2022-09-17T19:14:42Z
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@utopify_org @koherecoWatchdog @JoYo @thegibson @socketwench @Tay0 @strypey The list at https://wiki.snowdrift.coop/market-research/other-crowdfundingis not a list of payment-systems (and Patreon is not a payment system either).All these platforms use some other service or tool for doing the payment processing. The platforms organize or structure, connect in various ways the donors and recipients.Payment-systems are like Paypal, Stripe, or Bitcoin
(DIR) Post #ANfq6ERfvs66hjDe3U by snowdrift@social.coop
2022-09-17T19:20:04Z
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@utopify_org @koherecoWatchdog @JoYo @thegibson @socketwench @Tay0 @strypey An ethical payment-processor is a huge challenge, bigger than one of these front-end platforms. It involves a lot of legal liabilities and other hassles.We do also have a page on that, but it's quite outdated and less robust. https://wiki.snowdrift.coop/market-research/payment-servicesGNU Taler looks intriguing.Criticizing compromises is fine, but recognize them as such. Liberapay and Open Collective aren't themselves malicious, just compromised.
(DIR) Post #ANhmCT6kJsoCPr4GNU by snowdrift@social.coop
2022-09-18T14:47:49Z
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@koherecoWatchdog @strypey @Tay0 @socketwench @thegibson @JoYo @utopify_org The standard that we call for at Snowdrift.coop and urge everyone in the world to follow:Always be *explicit* and apologize for any compromises. We accept that compromise is part of life. That doesn't make compromise perfectly fine. Compromises should be marked and apologies (explanations) made plainly.
(DIR) Post #ANnsss0Ttx5gTUUzVw by snowdrift@social.coop
2022-09-20T15:24:58Z
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@koherecoWatchdog @strypey @Liberapay We get farther (and communicate better) when we make concerns and problems *explicit* and when we promote ideals. Labels like "good" "bad" "ally" "adversary" are too blunt and simplistic.We have no basis to think LP or OC have any bad intentions, and that does mean something for how to treat and talk about them. Do they *understand* their compromises and recognize them as such? That's less clear. They *have* failed to be transparent about them.
(DIR) Post #ANnssv6cNamY5OOQzo by snowdrift@social.coop
2022-09-20T15:32:34Z
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@koherecoWatchdog @strypey @Liberapay So, in the case of Snowdrift.coop, we *recognize* that GitLab.com and Stripe *are* compromises. We *acknowledge* them publicly and are interested in better solutions if we can practically make them work.If LP and OC do not *realize* the compromises, then the task is helping them see it and acknowledge it. Have they been contacted? And presented with the "acknowledge compromise" suggestion, not just "stop it!" demand? If so, any response?
(DIR) Post #AXKH7BJgyPItNEk0Vk by snowdrift@social.coop
2023-07-01T19:52:09Z
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@wolftune will be speaking on July 16 at #FOSSY in Portland on sustainable funding for FLO work: https://2023.fossy.us/schedule/presentation/145/