Posts by scirave@mstdn.social
(DIR) Post #AWpXT6wuzQfKiwBlzs by scirave@mstdn.social
2023-06-18T22:55:08Z
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@stux ... couldn't you also preblock and THEN re-federate if it doesn't go to hell in a handbasket? Idk man feels like the better option would go be to go for the precautionary principle over the postactionary, here.I really, really do not trust FB. This is making my antsy.
(DIR) Post #AWphDqJdY9WUKkApF2 by scirave@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T00:44:09Z
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@stux i would b ok as long as they had:1. A compelling motivation.2. Were willing and hoping to re-federate in the case that their suspicions were false or unfounded.Both are true here. This feels incredibly risky. FB needs to prove legitemacy to investors and this looks like it's an atrempt to capture usage from Mastodon and then cut off ActivityPub once they reach critical mass. i don't want to indirectly support that. Please reconsider.
(DIR) Post #AWq88WyaivDRfT1NeC by scirave@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T03:44:24Z
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@avrin @stux You misunderstand the problem here. This is precisely out of Microsoft's ye old "Embrace. Extend. Extinguish" playbook. FB needs to cough up something for investors. They need to show results. They're going to use Mastodon to springboard their new platform with users and content. Then they'll offer a better service, aggressive onboarding, and then eventually cutoff the federation. Finally, enshittification will begin.I don't want to be a part of that. Or provide content to it.
(DIR) Post #AWq88Yi0HZ8T2bHA4O by scirave@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T03:46:39Z
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@avrin @stux Once upon a time, they did this with XMPP. This is not new, this is not unsubstantiated, this is what they've been doing for YEARS. They have the resources to pull it off, the will, the motivation, and a history of it. This isn't vague reactionary bullshit that I'm pulling out of my ass. This is a likely risk and known factor.
(DIR) Post #AWqDSojktn1AJXZga8 by scirave@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T05:05:47Z
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@atomicpoet Sorry you had (or are still having, sadly) to go through that. Today has been rather tiring for me on this platform, as well. I guess a temporary solution would be putting on a filter for a day or so until it blows over?It'd be great if that wasn't something people had to do, though, I understand.
(DIR) Post #AWqmEeGAYKyOA3iOP2 by scirave@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:15:02Z
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@stux You're not brobed, but I do consider it naive to not expect Meta's BS from Meta's platforms. Tjey're going to use us to springboard. Then defederate. It's what happened with #xmppI don't think it's a good idea to let that happen.
(DIR) Post #AWqmbP9CuEnNx4JFwm by scirave@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:19:28Z
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@stux I'm just worried they'll slow burn this by acting amicable, gain a sizable userbase, leave, and then abuse em. This whole situation is making me antsy...I can't really think of any reason why a corporation like FB would do this otherwise, which is why I completely understand people preblocking.
(DIR) Post #AWqmnOLzgPV8xt0SX2 by scirave@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T13:21:44Z
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@fosserytech @stux It's already harvested (or you might as well consider ot as that). It's public info, they are allowed to crawl it.
(DIR) Post #AWr5yYLskTIcHvzQMy by scirave@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T14:30:12Z
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@VamptVo @stux Oh absolutely. But they chose ActivityPub for more than one reason. Users have lost trust in them, even among normies it's pretty prevelent. (the whole metaverse shit especially)That won't stop their existing platforms from retaining numbers, but it puts some friction on starting something new methinks. Definitely a calculated decission on multiple fronts. But I don't think they intend on letting competitors actually compete. I don't want us to put gasoline on the fire.
(DIR) Post #AWr5yYuGgcny0a4sy0 by scirave@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T14:32:46Z
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@VamptVo @stux One of their obviously intended audiences is Twitter refugees. Their marketing would benefit from this. I think we can both agree that ActivityPub is a means to an end for them.Either way, defederating preemptively hurts at least some of their goals from this. So I still think it's a smart decission, and I'm having trouble finding any "bright side" to federating with them, in the first place!
(DIR) Post #AWrFszOuGg6JyzOFUm by scirave@mstdn.social
2023-06-19T18:47:23Z
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@drq @liaizon Nah, apparently it'll "continue going forward"?My guess is people started harassing dansup.https://mastodon.social/@dansup/110572348499857791