Posts by ninad@mastodon.social
(DIR) Post #9p1ilyLvEWdQO9k6Jk by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-16T17:45:58Z
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@freemo I see it this way - most of those in power have malices in them including women. So yes some woman in power can indeed be sexist. But not all women! Simply because all of them still haven't even got the opportunity to be something or even think for themselves, let alone be sexist and exercise power by discriminating.@Deepsealioness
(DIR) Post #9p1iubbhAc8iS0EkgC by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-16T17:47:32Z
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@freemo No sir, most of the times, men do. That's the point. We have to realize that women being in power and being sexist is the exception not the norm. At least in developing countries it is the case.@Deepsealioness
(DIR) Post #9p1jWqo56dr0b1GcfA by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-16T17:54:25Z
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@freemo I agree on power.As far as sexism is concerned, in men, sexism is mostly (not always) thinking that they are 'better' than or superior to women.I can't say the same about women. So that's why sexism in men is politically incorrect imho.@Deepsealioness what do you think?
(DIR) Post #9p1kmDozv5seGzaaa8 by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-16T18:08:25Z
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@freemo True. It is different in different cultures. But mostly has been against women because men have been in powerful position. Now as we move towards a more equal society, the women are expressing more of themselves and as you said that expression could also have some sexism in it.@Deepsealioness
(DIR) Post #9p1pzKgqC5c76uqRe4 by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-16T19:06:49Z
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@freemo I think by privilege she means what we have already discussed - that men have traditionally been in power and oppressed women. That privilege.@Deepsealioness right?
(DIR) Post #9p1qeV5CSTS7DTrvv6 by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-16T19:14:15Z
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@freemo Yes. She might have not read the full convo. I have replied with a link to one of my toots. Although can't risk to irk her much :breathe: I still fear the punch will land on me :blobpeek: @Deepsealioness
(DIR) Post #9p1rVHOU5H2k6o3XFI by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-16T19:23:46Z
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@freemo Of course she is. I have interacted and argued with her before. She is one of the reasons many flocked here from BirdSite. I am just making the discussion a bit on lighter notes...@Deepsealioness
(DIR) Post #9p1sP6kopUNHKK7k48 by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-16T19:05:35Z
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@Deepsealioness https://mastodon.social/@ninad/103148837786867419@freemo
(DIR) Post #9p1sP7RMHKOzSG1iN6 by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-16T19:30:36Z
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@Deepsealioness Umm... I would rather put it as...blacks/women being racist or sexist would be an exception historically, and they being prejudiced against by whites/men the norm.One additional point is this: If in 21st century, in a place where the majority is black, if a white is discriminated against, I would oppose it.@freemo
(DIR) Post #9p1uAtfsrW1kcDAPvE by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-16T19:49:39Z
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@Deepsealioness So when we say privileged or oppressed, we must say so in relative terms. We can compare genders with genders, casts with casts, races with races. That way it's clear that women, blacks and dalits are the oppressed.Comparing a white woman with a Black man as @freemo did is complex. This comparison isn't binary. We can't say - either privileged or not. This comparison will have the privileged box checked 4 the white woman on some issues and 4 black man on some issues.
(DIR) Post #9p1udYUegxuLJya2d6 by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-16T19:58:54Z
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@freemo Not everyone. For example, say being a white straight male in US is (or was) the best position. In India, that position is being a Brahmin male. Similarly worst conditions too exist. Being a dalit/tribal woman in India. Untill the notion of hierarchy isn't completely eliminated from a generation, we must keep fighting. Positive note is that it has started happening in India as well. And with technology, will only gain pace & move exponentially!!@Deepsealioness
(DIR) Post #9p1vIWtHYWpYDtdZei by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-16T20:04:21Z
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@Deepsealioness No he doesn't disagree as far as I understood him. He just said what I said in earlier toot, to which I think you agree too :- Sometimes when comparing between hierarchies, things get complex. At such a time, each person in the comparison has certain privileges and is oppressed on certain issues.So better statement would be :- All men in India and US are privileged viz a viz women. All whites......viz a viz blacks..All brahmins....viz a viz dalits.@freemo
(DIR) Post #9p26mBrRPJTLBT7d5s by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-16T21:07:17Z
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@KnottedBowAt the risk of getting hounded for saying this, let me make a point that yes many of the sanghis are as bad as they are on social media, but there are many who aren't such. One more distinction we must make is that not all BJP voters are sanghis. Not all BJP voters have hatred for muslims. There are lot of factors in voting. BJP voters surely involve people from oppressed castes, women, even Muslims. @NSure @SilkyNsa @BhavanaVarun @Vishsai
(DIR) Post #9p3OGVrNVbRyHB65nk by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-16T20:37:47Z
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@Deepsealioness I would like to offer apologies on behalf of them 🙏
(DIR) Post #9p3OGWlk82XL5zT6em by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-16T20:51:38Z
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@Deepsealioness So what if not my fault. I should do it just to make you feel better. As I have said earlier, a social media which doesn't take a toll on mental health especially for politically aware and active people can only be realized if we heal for every wound by either apologizing or through praise/appreciation posts.
(DIR) Post #9p3OGXcuwL4TkuLZXU by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-16T21:34:06Z
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@Deepsealioness hehe. Thanks. BirdSite handle I deleted it long time ago actually. Was fed up. Got into argument with few folks on national security and since I used to engage in mostly politics, economy and geopolitics it was difficult to stay there among constant arguing and trolling. Also it was consuming too much of my time while offering little in productivity/new learning. So thought it's better to focus on books & research papers than social media...1/2
(DIR) Post #9p3OGXzxYfVEuN7ySG by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-16T21:37:29Z
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@Deepsealioness ...but now I am here on another social media. :angery: Even if I were active, you wouldn't have liked my profile as I followed many RW & centrist voices apart from usual LW voices. Also you wouldn't have liked my views on geopolitics. I am a realist. 🙈
(DIR) Post #9p3OGYiyrHW1A0Bvd2 by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-16T21:42:21Z
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@Deepsealioness oh I meant argued here not on BirdSite.Don't remember exactly but it was something about sanghis. You labeled all of them as something and I argued that not all of them are such and BJP voter-base is a complex set of people. We just can't label all of them as blood thirsty people. They have a variety of reasons to vote the way they do.
(DIR) Post #9pIGjjR2ENdsVwb19s by ninad@mastodon.social
2019-11-24T16:08:27Z
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@Vishsai Don't know why but something tells me this fear won't come true. I mean things will be bad. But not this bad. Many cognitive biases at work ensure that our brain constantly thinks "this thing is getting worse" - especially brains of aware and well read folks. Let us hope for the best :)@vidyut
(DIR) Post #9w0t3C1dx68wYiCeyu by ninad@mastodon.social
2020-06-12T17:11:11Z
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@perceptivemind true 😔🥺