Posts by exterm@layer8.space
(DIR) Post #APjpY1Ze3FZuQVvomm by exterm@layer8.space
2022-11-18T19:36:10Z
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@tiago Should I be able to log into your gitlab instance to leave bug reports? I've tried to log in with my gitlab.com account but am told that an admin needs to approve.For further context, I am encountering https://git.skewed.de/count0/graph-tool/-/issues/741, but on fedora. I'd add a comment to the existing bug report.This looks like it may be a library version incompatibility?
(DIR) Post #APjpY2E3czu8Rqq5mC by exterm@layer8.space
2022-11-18T19:40:58Z
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@tiago Oh and of course since I am on fedora I am on graphtool 2.43
(DIR) Post #APqRJNTzEw0SA7JiBE by exterm@layer8.space
2022-11-22T00:16:17Z
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@tiago mastodon could also open the links within your instance, as a stopgap measure. The functionality is already there (paste link into search field)
(DIR) Post #APqwOYm3mbMLD1inWi by exterm@layer8.space
2022-11-22T00:16:39Z
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@tiago but it could be automatic.
(DIR) Post #AQZTgYyDddp0TLq0Yq by exterm@layer8.space
2022-12-13T17:44:45Z
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@tiago I agree with all of this, but I fear with just a few years of improvements to existing capabilities none of this will matter. Correlation becomes virtually indistinguishable from causation and random recombination from “true creativity”.
(DIR) Post #AQZozP7cZo8UT43qfw by exterm@layer8.space
2022-12-13T21:43:35Z
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@tiago I'm not saying causation is possible, I'm saying it may become irrelevant :)I'd argue that what we've seen over the last few years is an expansion of use cases where that's already true. Corporations generally have no interest in causation, they want to see numbers go up. So that's been a fertile ground for this.However - if you show me practical limitations that clearly can't be overcome by increasing training set size and computational power, I'll happily revise that opinion.
(DIR) Post #AQZqr8m7fYnDMRC0Rc by exterm@layer8.space
2022-12-13T21:45:44Z
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@tiago I'm not sure I understand the part about interventions. I was mostly thinking about correlation vs causation in terms of prediction.Can you expand on why you think causation is necessary to perform interventions?
(DIR) Post #AQZyBJx4WY8VUlsrSa by exterm@layer8.space
2022-12-13T23:26:34Z
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@tiago I think we’ll continue to disagree on parts of this, at least!As for companies’ interest in causation… surely sometimes they are interested in causation. But I’d argue that in most cases they are not. The AB test is actually a great example. Test two variants of a product, measure which one works better, then decide to use that one. Why does that one work better? The AB test doesn’t tell. It doesn’t need to. The company is making more money.
(DIR) Post #AQaMN3a3cDBz60FR0C by exterm@layer8.space
2022-12-14T03:57:37Z
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@tiago thank you for your patient explanations - I guess I have seen a lot of misuse of AB testing then. I’ll take a look at that book. However - am I wrong in thinking that all commercial application of machine learning is based on causation being unnecessary? I’m still not convinced otherwise. Example, machine learning used to detect payment fraud. It’s purely based on correlation from what I’ve seen in the past.
(DIR) Post #AQaMTpB5YwmCSBnQOW by exterm@layer8.space
2022-12-14T03:58:51Z
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@tiago the distinction between mechanism and causal relationships is very helpful.
(DIR) Post #AQb6VvDGgtURdrknAG by exterm@layer8.space
2022-12-14T12:34:37Z
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@tiago I think my point is that what we had 5-10 years ago is sufficient for a lot of commercial use cases, and with these correlation machines (my interpretation) being orders of magnitude better now at the high end that fraction of use cases that are commercially viable will increase drastically. Meaning, in effect, causal relationships become less relevant. For my initial statements in this thread I just extrapolated from there.
(DIR) Post #AV1V6f4uv1yljTwGyO by exterm@layer8.space
2023-04-25T21:41:05Z
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@tux0r Markt lücke
(DIR) Post #AVe9kVbzOlq4hAjKK0 by exterm@layer8.space
2023-05-14T13:15:35Z
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@tux0r Deutsche & Albaner.
(DIR) Post #AVgirEtZpieJaboyP2 by exterm@layer8.space
2023-05-15T18:58:22Z
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@tiago https://elk.zone/sigmoid.social/@melaniemitchell/110373856644694080
(DIR) Post #AWc3bHZ9389WO9j5Y8 by exterm@layer8.space
2023-06-12T10:49:21Z
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@tux0r Theoretisch witzig, aber Hautfarbe überflüssig.
(DIR) Post #AYIBogF23jO7cD6eqe by exterm@layer8.space
2023-08-01T16:27:10Z
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@EU_Commission What did I just read
(DIR) Post #AcKl8Dgucn8B5BTpom by exterm@layer8.space
2023-11-30T13:44:27Z
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@EU_Commission Good to see it, but the EU needs to do more (everyone does).Specifically, I‘d prefer leadership by example through a binding agreement to start phasing out fossil fuel subsidies right now and redirect them into the transition to clean energy sources.
(DIR) Post #AiNo8VuUSn3ZZBW5tA by exterm@layer8.space
2024-05-29T12:15:18Z
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@tiago thank you so much for this. Much needed. I see everyone making the same projection using force directed layout, extracting what they can from that, then giving up. Will try this on a few networks I am working on. They mostly have directed edges so I’m especially interested in the rank aspect.
(DIR) Post #ArSMIuHDkt11PERLnc by exterm@layer8.space
2025-02-24T21:45:52Z
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@frameworkcomputer This is either a printer or a fantastic troll.
(DIR) Post #ArUv51O0ZTqqCKSNeK by exterm@layer8.space
2025-02-26T03:24:57Z
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@frameworkcomputer Probably time to replace your pinned toot now, eh? ;)