Posts by MobiusBlack@kolektiva.social
 (DIR) Post #AcHEPG9Mr785fcQZeK by MobiusBlack@kolektiva.social
       2023-11-28T20:39:33Z
       
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       @DeeGLloyd @anderspuck excellent video, but Mr Nielsen should make it clearer that he's speaking strictly about the legal definition of genocide, which may not be the same as the definition in politics or social theory. One difference is that 'genocide' used by other sciences (or common usage) doesn't require identifying a specific individual before the label can be used. For example, among historians and anthropologists it's commonly accepted that the massacre at Nataruk was genocide despite it being impossible to identity any individual perpetrators. One tribe massacred the entirety of another tribe in order to occupy resources, they bludgeoned children and pregnant women whose hands were bound, the identifying pottery of the victim tribe completely disappeared from the record replaced by the identifying pottery of the perpetrating tribe; I think most people would agree that is genocide. I think there is a good case to be made for both Hamas and the Israeli regime commiting genocide in the broader sense, although neither fit the legal definition used by Mr. Nielsen.It's also important to keep in mind the purpose of this legal requirement, which is to hold people accountable, and you can't do that without identifying individuals and proving their specific actions. The requirements of legal accountability should not be used to dismiss the existence of genocide as it is understood outside of a legal context.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcHGYAgElHUBDjBAsi by MobiusBlack@kolektiva.social
       2023-11-28T21:17:42Z
       
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       @anderspuck @DeeGLloyd Perhaps I am misinterpreting your commentary. At approximately 2:48 in your video you discuss the idea that genocide is a crime committed by an individual: "it is an individual who commits the genocide". My point is that in common usage, 'genocide' does not require that an individual is the one commiting the act, and that most people would be comfortable saying that groups are the perpetrators even if no person in that group is ever identified. I think that historically there many cases of so called mob mentality becoming a genocidal act.Of course, if you meant something different then my comments may not apply.I think that your analogy to murder is an interesting one because, like genocide, the existence of the crime can depend on the intent of the perpetrator. For example, a death by gunshot may be murder in one context but manslaughter in another- is the perpetrator firing at an individual, or firing in the air to celebrate a wedding? In practice, it often requires the identification of an individual and evidence of their intention, although that may not always be the case.Thank you again for your interesting video.
       
 (DIR) Post #AcHIoNLvc5T945XCcK by MobiusBlack@kolektiva.social
       2023-11-28T21:32:00Z
       
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       @ideal_CH @anderspuck yes that is my confusion, in the video he says that "genocide is a crime committed by an individual", but I've always understood it as a crime that can be committed by a group. I do not have a legal background, so I may be misinterpreting Mr. Nielsen's comment.