Posts by JonKramer@qoto.org
(DIR) Post #Aa0CW6mEcAU5doZlFw by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T19:58:39Z
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@freemo @ech @Free_Idealist @pyranose @georgetakei "and its leaders"That part isn't true. they support laws banning all abortions. The push for laws criminalizing women who would travel to other states to get a legal abortion. They require women to wait in parking lots until they are bleeding out before removing a dead fetus. In short, there is no argument that the leadership, leaders those 66% of the GOP members support, is in any way, shape or form in favor of body autonomy. By extension, if you vote for leaders who stand against body autonomy, YOU are against it. I see no grey here.
(DIR) Post #Aa0CeIYehHT0Uo85cO by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T20:00:07Z
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@freemo @Free_Idealist @pyranose @georgetakei My point was, and is, that there do exist some actual lefty parties. They are NOT in power. Only right wing parties have power in the United States. All left parties are out of power.
(DIR) Post #Aa0CnYDDrdNpeYW4u0 by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T20:01:48Z
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@freemo @Free_Idealist @pyranose @georgetakei That you consider an actual left party to be "fringe" is supporting of my position. The ARE fringe. Because they are actual lefties. Obama and Biden are not.
(DIR) Post #Aa0ETADLZuVlLDysyG by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T20:20:32Z
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@freemo @Free_Idealist @pyranose @georgetakei "Seeing as all the evidence clearly showed the democrats are a left-wing party."Except it doesn't clearly show that. Let me know when they have ANY left wing stance at all, like BLM, ANTIFA, defund the police, end wars, UBI, open borders, body autonomy, etc. Or even the rent being too damn high.
(DIR) Post #Aa0EzYO5EqDZa0RoUC by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T20:26:19Z
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@freemo @Free_Idealist @pyranose @georgetakei "Clearly left wing".Those words don't mean what you think they mean. They may be clearly left wing to YOU. But to me, they are all pretty far right. Go back to my statement about forests and trees.
(DIR) Post #Aa0FUObJfsscCjLNZ2 by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T20:31:57Z
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@freemo @Free_Idealist @pyranose @georgetakei I think you don't understand the range of the political spectrum. I don't feel you CAN understand it. I think it is remarkably astute of you to understand that a left party is fringe at all, but fail to understand why.
(DIR) Post #Aa0GC4kUqRGlNOSwq0 by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T20:39:51Z
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@freemo @Free_Idealist @pyranose @georgetakei , just curious, where would you place Democratic socialists, actual socialists, and the communist party of America?
(DIR) Post #Aa0GvtlnzpOAe9vbo8 by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T20:40:24Z
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@freemo @Free_Idealist @pyranose @georgetakei , or the Green Party...
(DIR) Post #Aa0IANNenlgaUT6HWS by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T21:01:57Z
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@freemo @Free_Idealist @pyranose @georgetakeiLooking at your number line… you see the Dems, Obama, and Biden as closer to the socialists, Greens, etc. than to the GOP? Really?? On a scale from 1-100, I see the GOP about 80. I see the dems about a 70. Dem socialists about 50, socialists about 20. Greens come in at about 30 maybe? Anything to the right of Saunders, at 50, is ‘right wing.’ Anything to the left of him is ‘left wing.’Your point about authoritarian vs libertarian… I addressed that in my initial post with a picture from political compass.
(DIR) Post #Aa0IzxcRpLiFeQcFZQ by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T21:11:17Z
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@freemo @Free_Idealist @pyranose @georgetakei100 would be Genghis Khan. 0 would be government at all. Number lines are just a range. I just don’t see the need for anything other than whole numbers here. If you want to toss in authoritarians… then refer to the Nolan charts.
(DIR) Post #Aa0KAP9MQHVtt1YRsW by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T21:24:21Z
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@freemo @Free_Idealist @pyranose @georgetakei“what quality is 0 to 100 measuring?”A gestalt. 1 being far left principles, 100 being far right. If you want more info:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum#:~:text=Generally%2C%20the%20left%20wing%20is,tradition%2C%20reaction%20and%20nationalism%22.
(DIR) Post #Aa0L9WlIjiDh9vRkYq by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T21:35:25Z
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@freemo @Free_Idealist @pyranose @georgetakei Your argument that one scale is superior to another is going to be ignored by me, because I honestly don’t care what the scale is. I just don’t CARE. No one should.
(DIR) Post #Aa0LnE0HtlUUZ4Ny5o by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T21:42:36Z
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@freemo @Free_Idealist @pyranose @georgetakei If you don’t use Kelvin, you are WRONG and don’t know how scales work!!! Also, only 24 hour clocks are acceptable, and only sidereal time!
(DIR) Post #Aa0M5pu9ioGxKEOMka by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T21:45:56Z
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@freemo @Free_Idealist @pyranose @georgetakeiYou will wait for a LONG time. Because I just don’t care. It is irrelevant.
(DIR) Post #Aa0Mp7tBhdxk8NXF5c by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T21:54:08Z
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@freemo @Free_Idealist @pyranose @georgetakei“Go ahead, try to explain how you could represent temperature on a scale of 0-100.. ill wait.”0 would be zero atomic/molecular/KE vibration, 100 would be vibrations at the speed of light? that could work. Or you could reverse it and call 0 the maximum energy level possible, and 100 the minimum… That could work as well. Or you could make it a logarithmic scale, or a scale that fluctuates based on how many cats you own on any given day.
(DIR) Post #Aa0MuyMo1GkSL4B0Vs by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T21:50:39Z
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@freemo @Free_Idealist @pyranose @georgetakeiI can come up with a new scale, and call it the Kramer scale. It ranges from ‘as cold as a witch’s tit to hot as hell, in increments of 3.14.All you really need to understand is ‘cold’ and ‘hot’. and how those are different.Left and right are also scalable, in the gestalt at least. with one end being as far left as you can get, and the other end being as far right as you can get.This isn’t rocket science, and I think you are belaboring this point not because you fail to understand how irrelevant this is, but because you wish to annoy me. I have no idea WHY, except possibly you are annoyed that I don’t see someone you support as anything but a right winger, or something like that, and you are annoyed. This is a you problem, not a me problem.In any case, the discussion is terminated.
(DIR) Post #Aa0N1Xn7E2crwWcGWm by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T21:56:22Z
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@freemo @Free_Idealist @pyranose @georgetakei“what temperature would that be on the celsius scale?”That would be ‘hot as hell.’
(DIR) Post #Aa0N7kBA541i6IotJw by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T21:57:30Z
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@freemo @Free_Idealist @pyranose @georgetakei“which actually no you cant do”I literally just did it.
(DIR) Post #Aa0OXc0ZBMeqF5lMB6 by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-21T16:31:44Z
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"Ok then this wasnt even a valid point then."You asked “how do you “enforce monopolies” “.If you wanted to ask about creating them, under a specific person, I would have answered that question instead.
(DIR) Post #AuBmgeGNhsYJkXhIOm by JonKramer@qoto.org
2023-09-01T19:40:02Z
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@futurebird Million dollar idea, and to prove it: