Posts by Acies@mastodontti.fi
(DIR) Post #AYPnMDCKNgS0ZzmOVk by Acies@mastodontti.fi
2023-08-05T01:05:28Z
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@darthstar @DeeGLloyd @anderspuck The initial reports I saw said that the tanker was returning from Syria. I assume that tankers generally leave Russia full and return empty. I'm curious what the ecological dangers posed by an empty oil tanker are, compared to any other type of ship - is whatever oil remains in the cargo holds significantly worse than any ship would carry for fuel?
(DIR) Post #AYQSP6rIVE7VuNRXdo by Acies@mastodontti.fi
2023-08-05T16:11:59Z
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@sarahbeck @VikingChieftain @anderspuck @eva_chaos @darthstar @DeeGLloyd It's pretty clearly a legitimate military target. If someone is producing ammo and sending it to people who are shooting it at you, you're allowed to try to stop them.
(DIR) Post #AYQStKqj39A1zHaXvU by Acies@mastodontti.fi
2023-08-05T16:20:00Z
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@anderspuck @sarahbeck @eva_chaos @darthstar @DeeGLloyd @VikingChieftain Their source addresses the legality of providing weapons and arms to Ukraine. Do you have anything that says Russia is not allowed to respond?
(DIR) Post #AYQUgkYqLLT9sGLo7k by Acies@mastodontti.fi
2023-08-05T16:30:49Z
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@VikingChieftain @anderspuck @sarahbeck @eva_chaos @darthstar @DeeGLloyd I'm sure they're a signatory. If the question is if Russia's war is wrong, it clearly is, and the US and everyone else is right to oppose it.But regardless of the legality of the war as a whole, there is a distinction between legitimate targets, like soldiers, and illegitimate targets, like kids. Weapons and ammo seems fairly clearly on the legitimate side. But I'm interested if there's a source that says otherwise.
(DIR) Post #AYQVWaFTvfgUww0jA0 by Acies@mastodontti.fi
2023-08-05T16:49:40Z
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@anderspuck @VikingChieftain @sarahbeck @eva_chaos @darthstar @DeeGLloyd Again, do you have something that supports that? It seems baffling.Imagine we turn this around, and Ukraine, or some friend of Ukraine, sabotages a Shahed factory in Iran. You're saying that would also be an illegitimate target?
(DIR) Post #AYQbseH0FJy5WkcvXk by Acies@mastodontti.fi
2023-08-05T17:04:56Z
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@VikingChieftain @anderspuck @sarahbeck @eva_chaos @darthstar @DeeGLloyd So by that logic an American factory could be a target for Russia, but would drag America into the war, right?
(DIR) Post #AYQbsfgD15iztDQZTE by Acies@mastodontti.fi
2023-08-05T17:42:23Z
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@darthstar @VikingChieftain @anderspuck @sarahbeck @eva_chaos @DeeGLloyd And the USSR sent planes and pilots to fight the US in Korea. I think the reasons the many proxy wars didn't turn into direct wars between the US and Russia was because neither side wanted WW3, not because you're entitled to supply one party in a war without the other side trying to do something about it.
(DIR) Post #AYQfORvzxN0UO8epd2 by Acies@mastodontti.fi
2023-08-05T18:40:10Z
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@anderspuck @darthstar @VikingChieftain @sarahbeck @eva_chaos @DeeGLloyd That part makes sense to me - that international law allows a country to support another country involved in a war, and that seems especially appropriate when it's helping someone unjustly invaded.It's the expectation that the other country involved isn't allowed to respond militarily that I'm extremely suspicious of. Certainly if I was leading a country supporting another, I wouldn't rely on it for my protection.
(DIR) Post #AYQgDMPYFft21ikzr6 by Acies@mastodontti.fi
2023-08-05T18:42:40Z
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@anderspuck @darthstar @VikingChieftain @sarahbeck @eva_chaos @DeeGLloyd I'd add that part of the issue here is that the aggressor state is never going to admit that they are waging an illegal war. They'll concoct some excuse, as Russia did here, and then act as if they have every right to start the war. So whether something is a target or not probably doesn't rely on how ethical the war is.