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 (DIR) Post #B6u9xSy4D961tsVtM8 by kirby
       2026-06-01T23:41:05.083115Z
       
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       Holy shit st actually works but it crashes when its not invoked with any arguments and I DONT KNOW WHY! also it still sends ^H instead of ^? for backspace...
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uACOSXFw5SGEsmlk by sicp@freebeerextremist.com
       2026-06-01T23:42:34.745644Z
       
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       @kirby i'm sorry for you having to fuck with shitty terminals
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uAuN8HY9Dot7NcIq by kirby
       2026-06-01T23:51:43.830933Z
       
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       @sicp turns out I had to put `stty erase ^H` into /etc/profile. then backspace started to work normally again
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uJuMFti63bks0gfA by kirby
       2026-06-02T01:32:34.392130Z
       
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       the only problem is then it completely breaks other terminals which try to emulate the loonix way of doing backspace stuff by default. fedibbs started spitting out fucking ^?'s whenever i would hit backspace when that line was in my bashrc. awful stuff
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uMKyxicbaPEuKXPE by sicp@freebeerextremist.com
       2026-06-02T01:58:35.411919Z
       
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       @kirby I was only able to build fedibbs on plan 9, didn't bother figuring out how to make it work on linux. And like, if you're on 9front then you use vt(1) as an ansi terminal and that's probably what @p is using. suckless stuff is mostly crap made for masochist dudes who enjoy house-of-cards systems and get a boner when they have to debug fundamental shit as their daily routine, like I stuck with slackware early on cause I hate that shit but apparently there's a large modicum of people that get off to having their shit not work; I don't get it but hey you do you, some people like to spend money importing russian cars for the same reason. Just use xterm or something.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uMcl9sgO6VdkUoMK by kirby@freerobuxextremist.com
       2026-06-02T02:02:59.374406Z
       
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       @sicp @kirby @p >just use xtermoh my god xterm is the thing i had to fuck up the tty for, other terminal emulators use the new code, st happens to be one of them. xterm is an old pile of legacy dogcrap that only really works well on debian because the debian package maintainers lobotomized it into behaving like any other terminal would.....
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uMgWN3bW5Ww5S7kG by kirby@freerobuxextremist.com
       2026-06-02T02:03:40.668814Z
       
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       @sicp @kirby @p and before you whine "your initial responses were ambigious", learn to read minds fucker
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uN4jzabxmK8G1ahE by kirby@freerobuxextremist.com
       2026-06-02T02:08:02.618041Z
       
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       @kirby @p @sicp (oh wait i said initially that it sent ^H as well, how did i come to thet conclusion again I've already forgotten)
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uNZWGDiQmWWMToW0 by sicp@freebeerextremist.com
       2026-06-02T02:12:24.965712Z
       
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       @kirby @kirby @p > the new codeI wasn't aware there was a new code, like I don't think there's been a new ANSI terminal spec in the past 40 years and emulating a VT100 isn't very hard and xterm does it fine for my purposes.> xterm is an old pile of legacy dogcrap that only really works well on debian because the debian package maintainers lobotomized it into behaving like any other terminal would.....Debian and Ubuntu and Arch the like do that a lot and it's the reason a ton of shit either only works on debian or doesn't work at all on debian because they fuck around with the source in a way that shit becomes unreproducible. Slackware doesn't change the source of anything at all, not even the kernel; so you get this strange grey zone where if something works at all like the way it's supposed to it will at least work on Slackware. All my stuff works on Slackware, and the brief periods of time where I used debian deriviatives the only memories that stick out was shit not working ever.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uNitLHGh2yiIJYYq by sicp@freebeerextremist.com
       2026-06-02T02:14:06.988131Z
       
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       @kirby @kirby @p :brain3:
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uS1rVWiI9cLGPSWu by p
       2026-06-02T03:03:34.170987Z
       
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       @kirby @sicp This is a terminal setting.  ^H and ^? are handled ridiculously in Linux; `stty erase` is responsible for this.  fedibbs just reads stdin and writes stdout.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uSh6T7zaYmcHx9I8 by p
       2026-06-02T03:11:01.373065Z
       
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       @sicp @kirby I'm actually usually running it in acme.  When I run it on Linux, I generally use rlwrap for it.  You can even wrap ssh in it.  But because it does zero terminal interaction (which is why it'll run over anything and no terminal emulator is needed), any terminal weirdness comes from the terminal.If the terminal is st, it may be doing something weird.acme.gif
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uTvMwLeJEDi3zFFQ by p
       2026-06-02T03:24:48.356702Z
       
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       @kirby @sicp @kirby > xterm is an old pile of legacy dogcrapIt's emulating a "glass tty" (a VT-100), which is itself emulating an ASR-33 Teletype from 1959.  Terminal emulators are "legacy dogcrap".  You wanna see some dumb shit, this is still supported and it is designed to help you adjust the sync on the screen and spot problems:  `awk 'BEGIN{printf "%c[2K%c[0m%c#8\r", 27, 27, 27}'` .  xterm supports it, most terminal emulators support it, despite them being inside X and not a CRT.I recommend rxvt-unicode if you're gonna use one and you are using Linux.  It's a nice enough terminal emulator.  Faster and more reliable than st.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uV4ciyQtd1Dxhwm0 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2026-06-02T03:37:38.895802Z
       
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       @p @sicp @kirby @kirby Incidentally Plan9's win feels very much like a return-to-teletype, like if someone in bell labs just hated the shit out of VT100-style terminals (and well… I don't think they're entirely wrong).
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uV6x6Ldtt709keCO by p
       2026-06-02T03:38:06.270417Z
       
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       @sicp @kirby @kirby > xterm does it fine for my purposes.I get weirdness when I run dvtm in it for some reason; urxvt does fine.> debian deriviativesIt seems like a contradictory approach to use both Debian and st.Slackware's not bad.  CRUX is my preference, but distros are distros:  it's Linux, it sucks.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uZD7Zc1KQN2AdWZU by p
       2026-06-02T04:24:02.365661Z
       
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       @lanodan @kirby @kirby @sicp Well, it's a text stream.  In that sense, sure.  It doesn't have in-band control messages so it's not quite a return to the thing itself, but in spirit, sure.> like if someone in bell labs just hated the shit out of VT100-style terminalsRob Pike.  Plan 9 is, in part, what happened when Pike came back from PARC.  He wanted to never emulate a text-based terminal again.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uZNajITOnOM99vGq by p
       2026-06-02T04:25:55.905203Z
       
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       @lanodan @kirby @kirby @sicp The three things that happened after Xerox PARC:  the Mac, Windows, and Plan 9.  I like the Unix branch of evolution, obviously.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uaVYcCJogG4LCVTE by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2026-06-02T04:38:32.987767Z
       
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       @p @sicp @kirby @kirby Ah yeah, reminds me of https://commandcenter.blogspot.com/2019/01/notes-from-1984-trip-to-xerox-parc.html
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ud1uvX6C9URWnpTM by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
       2026-06-02T05:06:46.366622Z
       
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       @p @sicp @kirby @kirby It’s emulating a “glass tty” (a VT-100), which is itself emulating an ASR-33 Teletype from 1959.i can’t believe there are people who complain about this instead of finding it beautiful. it’s a borderline spiritual exercise to use a computer and celebrate the heritage that hasn’t been abandoned, to know that despite living in an entirely different world there is continuity and to appreciate the love and care of all the people who have toiled maintain that continuity
       
 (DIR) Post #B6udScnebRoe2dqv6O by p
       2026-06-02T05:11:39.687940Z
       
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       @lanodan @kirby @kirby @sicp That is the thing I was thinking of.  It's a really interesting piece because most of what you get is "The mouse!  Macintosh!  'I GOT THE LOOT, STEVE!'"
       
 (DIR) Post #B6udsVsQxsIo6FQtsm by allison@hidamari.apartments
       2026-06-02T05:16:19.378294Z
       
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       @p @sicp @kirby @kirby @lanodan Meanwhile Oberon is the Unix to Cedar's Multics and nobody bats an eye.  Funny how things work out
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ueJqpBBrq2szwjdQ by p
       2026-06-02T05:21:16.848958Z
       
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       @haematophage @kirby @kirby @sicp Who's complaining?  I just said it's pointless to describe xterm as "old thus bad" when any terminal emulator is emulating some 1959 shit.I don't think it's a great thing (it definitely feels clunky rather than spiritual to me to force text streams, which are great, through some terminal emulator, which is less great), but I wasn't complaining about anything except the `stty erase` boshit and the features like #8 that were irrelevant by 1989 but that everyone includes for no reason.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ueJqy2euvZKU5oRs by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2026-06-02T05:21:15.287019Z
       
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       @p @sicp @kirby @kirby Haha, this is why I have a bunch of bookmarks ^^https://hacktivis.me/bookmarks
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uekSlgjtRm5z0FGq by p
       2026-06-02T05:26:05.420475Z
       
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       @allison @kirby @kirby @lanodan @sicp I mean, acme is explicitly modeled on Oberon.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uenw9Bxszs58eYFs by p
       2026-06-02T05:26:43.088487Z
       
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       @lanodan @kirby @kirby @sicp I have it in my wiki somewhere.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ufJM7RS743booeye by p
       2026-06-02T05:32:23.782597Z
       
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       @lanodan @kirby @kirby @sicp Apparently I copypasta'd the entire thing.  (I am in the thing so my ability to access stuff is slower than it might be otherwise.)screenshote_2026-06-02_05:27:34.png
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ufTsNyLBh6ZtZ4GO by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2026-06-02T05:34:16.131970Z
       
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       @p @sicp @kirby @kirby I may also have copy-pasta'd the whole thing into a txt file somewhere but that stuff is a pain to organise.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6ugfXZvcvtDTVHbSS by p
       2026-06-02T05:47:36.645999Z
       
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       @lanodan @kirby @kirby @sicp awkiawki is nice because it is just text files; I'm a fan of the entire situation.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uh8n6uxSWy2pf35M by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2026-06-02T05:52:52.139987Z
       
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       @p @sicp @kirby @kirby Well my entire web stuff except pleroma is also just text files.Problem is more that for 3rd-party stuff I tend to just dump them into folders at nearly random places, purely hoarder behavior there rather than say archivist.Like here's another one of Rob Pike: https://hacktivis.me/datalove/txt/rob%20pike%20-%20A%20lesson%20in%20shortcuts.txt
       
 (DIR) Post #B6uixVkvLGgAwW7fcW by sicp@freebeerextremist.com
       2026-06-02T06:12:03.190742Z
       
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       @allison @kirby @kirby @p @lanodan Text buffers and hyperlinks being the main interface protocol is a branch of evolution that I wish could've made it further. Like, it's probably the strongest link between the xerox, the lisp machine, the oberon, the acme way of doing things and it works damn well cause it's so easy to design for. Engelbart did it Emacs still does it. Terry fucking Davis did it. I guess it was doomed to fail cause it makes sense to a hacker but not to a normie that just wants pictures to drag around and icons to gawk at, and HTTP kind of sank expectations for what it could be used for.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6um3EmLftrltDD9fc by haematophage@fabula.schizophreni.ca
       2026-06-02T06:47:53.091220Z
       
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       @p @sicp @kirby @kirby oh I wasn’t implying you were complaining, I meant the person you replied to
       
 (DIR) Post #B6v9AvXDPD37T2lhT6 by kirby@freerobuxextremist.com
       2026-06-02T11:07:00.133115Z
       
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       @p @sicp @kirby >Terminal emulators are "legacy dogcrap".Trve. Pike actually had a point by not emulating a full on vt100 terminal with 9term, it's a lot more convenient to actually be able to manipulate the input line using the mouse. Now if only rc had those nice bash macros like !! so I could repeat the previous command without having to copy paste it using chords
       
 (DIR) Post #B6vCsnAIBX0C75edPc by kirby
       2026-06-02T11:48:33.979511Z
       
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       Hi! My name is- who- my name is- what- my name is chicka chicka XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set in the environment. Aborting.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6vJZGzsGByEWUQAwy by kirby
       2026-06-02T13:03:28.433657Z
       
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       Still doesn't work with it installed and running : D
       
 (DIR) Post #B6vLeqfRGXHoVceIUq by kirby
       2026-06-02T13:26:53.493790Z
       
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       I installed elogind, seatd, and polkit because that's apparently required for elogind to work and sway STILL doesn't launch, the variable somehow still remains unset. I am on the verge of fuckin' losin it
       
 (DIR) Post #B6vM9RuxKnrYj5UyYK by kirby
       2026-06-02T13:32:25.317312Z
       
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       Yeah.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6vMAqpeBmJIHogSrA by kirby
       2026-06-02T13:32:40.518254Z
       
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       alpine
       
 (DIR) Post #B6vOTgesRFm88xkuae by kirby
       2026-06-02T13:58:29.369145Z
       
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       ok so it works but i'm using 40 mb more memory than i was on plain x and considering i only have a gig of ram total, this does leave me feeling quite upset. using sway if that matters, maybe it does some amount of compositing which is influencing memory use, but what i'm pointing more at is elogind, polkit and all that other crap running in the background. i may just have to set XDG_RUNTIME_DIR up manually.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6vP71wFFlsZR7dimO by kirby
       2026-06-02T14:05:35.989035Z
       
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       @kirby can't friggin delete this because the drop down box thats supposed to collapse upon highlighting the scope text won't drop down in netsurf and oh my god i am probably going to despise this browser in a few short weeks
       
 (DIR) Post #B6vQZn2rnxdnb90xpA by kirby
       2026-06-02T14:22:00.148240Z
       
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       that requires seatd and a bunch of other crap that i don't think i want on my system eating up memory. x is the winner here.... by the virtue of not requiring a million things to run in the background in order to have.. an experience at all
       
 (DIR) Post #B6vQbljHfU3q61nYsS by kirby
       2026-06-02T14:22:21.607514Z
       
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       which is unfortunate
       
 (DIR) Post #B6wQEVDJ6LzxN4hu3U by p
       2026-06-03T01:52:51.992158Z
       
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       @lanodan @kirby @kirby @sicp > purely hoarder behavior there rather than say archivistI understand and share the impulse.  My shit's organized but it's often haphazard.  I find a thing, then I have a thing, it's in a place, I don't know the place.A couple of years ago I had to split ~/doc and ~/data because `find doc | grep` started taking 15 minutes and it turned out to be because of the local copies of big chunks of data, including the CVE list (which is all stupid goddamn JSON files and I get *why* they would do that--they're giving you something to ingest, not something to read--but it is still inconvenient unless you actually ingest it and provide an update mechanism and is annoying for grep-ass motherfuckers such as me, and in this case, really bad for walking a tree).> Grabbed from <http://web.archive.org/web/20120805161513/https://plus.google.com/101960720994009339267/posts/R58WgWwN9jp>, done because on WebKit you end up with `visibility:hidden`.That was the dumbest fucking thing about Goggle Plos, it was this abomination of "Look, we're gonna show you text, but you've gotta execute a bucket of JavaScript first.  Fuck you.  We *are* the internet."  And then they kill it, which, you know...good riddance, but also all of that shit has disappeared and they killed their public Usenet archive after *buying* the world's biggest Usenet archive.> Rob Pike - A lesson in shortcuts.Oh, yeah, I remember reading this one.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6wS9ihfietFfYl10q by p
       2026-06-03T02:14:24.730977Z
       
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       @sicp @allison @kirby @kirby @lanodan > Text buffers and hyperlinks being the main interface protocol is a branch of evolution that I wish could've made it further.We're doing it.  I'm doing it.  Even LLMs are doing it.  (But they always use goddamn Latex for math and aside from the syntax being truly abominable, most Latex authors--fuck their stupid internal capitalization--see no problem with writing shit like `δ_entiregoddamnsentence` instead of just specifying things like "Where δ is $entire_goddamn_sentence".)> it works damn well cause it's so easy to design forYeah, like, fedibbs went from "nothing" to "basically all the features you need" in about a week of intermittently half-assing it.  This is way faster than any of the JS frontends were written, I'm pretty sure, and also one guy can do it instead of a handful of guys squinting at sub-pixel alignments and shitty AOP horseshit.> I guess it was doomed to fail cause it makes sense to a hacker but not to a normieDoomed to not be widely adopted by normies; I don't think it's failed.  It is a delightful way to work.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6wSzuINrhR8gDoVrk by p
       2026-06-03T02:23:50.629366Z
       
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       @haematophage @kirby @kirby @sicp I mean, I *would*, I just wasn't.  :bwksmug:
       
 (DIR) Post #B6wTZHfEyNlJIANESO by p
       2026-06-03T02:30:14.244244Z
       
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       @kirby @kirby @sicp > Now if only rc had those nice bash macros like !!This is the kind of thinking that got us bash.  It shouldn't be built into rc, so it's not.  (It is also nicer to use ditto marks than bangs:  http://git.9front.org/plan9front/9front/9e0401458da01fdb7ff5a7e048933308aa93ba32/rc/bin/%22%22/f.html )
       
 (DIR) Post #B6wUPRbVGKMJB5Uuci by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
       2026-06-03T02:39:37.529825Z
       
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       @p @sicp @kirby @kirby Yeah, Google killing off DejaNews is just horrible, kind of thing which reminds me that corporations in their style loves being pure net negatives to everyone else.And of course for tech it's blatant but like I'm sure stuff like McDonald/KFC/… would love to make everyone else starve just do they have more profits.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6xlPpUWLHzzdrxdrs by p
       2026-06-03T17:24:55.818339Z
       
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       @lanodan @kirby @kirby @sicp > corporations in their style loves being pure net negatives to everyone else:shitassdickfuckfluoride: I have some theories on this sort of thing and Google's DOJ/DHS/Pentagon ties. :threeletteragentglowsobright:Google bought the data and then killed it.  Do you remember the flood of "Oh, Google killed RSS, no one can use RSS any more because Google Reader is gone" articles?  Like, Google shuts down one reader and then HN is shouting, "RSS IS DEAD!"  Google Reader was essentially "We will figure out how to make you send us some goddamn analytics and look at the fucking ads, so help me god, for every single open protocol".  And HN was all "IF I CAN'T GET TARGETED SUGGESTIONS THEN I DON'T WANT TO LIVE".  And that was when everyone was getting funneled, you know, the creation of the Internet of Malls:  embrace/extend/extinguish the open protocols and tell everyone that Google could kill those protocols because Google owned them, then that Google had killed them and that nobody uses anything except Twitter and Facebook and Google Plas any more.  Same shit they did with XMPP when "Google Chat" stopped speaking XMPP to the outside world.  (For one bizarre, brief period of time, though, you could use Google Chat to speak to someone on Facebook Messenger.  I never tried it; Facebook's XMPP "federated" the same way Gab "federated", and I didn't know anyone on Facebook anyway, but it was convenient to be able to use my regular XMPP server/client to talk to people that hadn't escaped GMail yet.)And this is what worries me about the encroachment here.  Threads happens and either it goes nowhere Facebook declares that fedi is DOA, or it becomes popular and Facebook keeps it around long enough to get its PR team to declare that fedi is dead when Threads shuts down.  People are worried about Facebook getting data out of fedi but that's not what's going on:  fedi is small data.  The threat is they're going to coopt us and eventually kill us by funding PR pushes to declare that we're dead already.> And of course for tech it's blatant but like I'm sure stuff like McDonald/KFC/… would love to make everyone else starve just do they have more profits. It'd be more like Disney trying to get rid of parks in order to ensure that you have to buy tickets if you want to be outside with your family.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6xmkkZZvLjkQIrm08 by judgedread@poa.st
       2026-06-03T17:39:54.468100Z
       
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       Very good analysis of one of their craftier tactics. I remember when RSS was declared dead and went away on a lot of sites and wondering why.Now I know.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6yBZCA41SpbMmWEqm by p
       2026-06-03T22:17:57.211624Z
       
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       @judgedread > I remember when RSS was declared dead and went away on a lot of sites and wondering why.Yep.  PR push by Google because they failed to monetize it even after buying feedburner.com and owning a popular RSS reader.  Attempting to kill RSS and XMPP are capital crimes even if Google had done nothing else.  (Slack is still pushing "email is dead" but email is too useful for even a "unicorn" to kill it.  Many such cases.)I think RSS is somewhat less dead than people expect; most of the stuff I have .  People still use it, search engines still love it.  I use it.  It's extremely useful to be able to subscribe to a comma-separated list of fedi-related domains, so https://fedilist.com/instance/recent-changes?host=freespeechextremist.com%2Cdsmc.space%2Cpoa.st%2Ckiwifarms.cc%2Cfsebugoutzone.org%2Cshitposter.world links tohttps://fedilist.com/instance/recent-changes/rss?host=freespeechextremist.com%2Cdsmc.space%2Cpoa.st%2Ckiwifarms.cc%2Cfsebugoutzone.org%2Cshitposter.world and you can see the status changes.  The @fedilist bot uses the RSS feed ( https://fedilist.com/instance/newest/rss ) to get its data (it is always better to consume your own public interfaces if you want to have good public interfaces).
       
 (DIR) Post #B6yBguf6y5gZPUimbg by ins0mniak
       2026-06-03T22:19:20.904026Z
       
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       @p @judgedread @fedilist If I cant use rss I dont use the site. I have custom shit that downloads the html page everynight by cron job.  I just read it offline where ever.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6yG54IBDNZu2nljYu by p
       2026-06-03T23:08:32.038447Z
       
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       @ins0mniak @fedilist @judgedread Sensible.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6yGHph0o4RKWsTEaO by ins0mniak
       2026-06-03T23:10:50.448664Z
       
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       @p @fedilist @judgedread all I need is a shell.
       
 (DIR) Post #B6yHwORz67pFrjLWVs by p
       2026-06-03T23:29:22.574397Z
       
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       @ins0mniak @fedilist @judgedread "Give me a keyboard, a teletype, a cable long enough, and a place to stand, and I will hack the planet."
       
 (DIR) Post #B700VIuMHoJNx92DMO by Leyonhjelm@shitposter.world
       2026-06-04T19:23:24.284011Z
       
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       @p What readers aren't shit now?  I haven't found one I didn't hate since the end of Google reader, which I grudgingly used because it was clean and useful even though I knew what was going to happen to it eventually@fedilist @judgedread
       
 (DIR) Post #B702RsPgXJssowBHTk by p
       2026-06-04T19:45:12.500378Z
       
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       @Leyonhjelm @fedilist @judgedread Well, Thunderbird *used* to be all right but it was still kinda shit; I switched to that before Google discontinued their reader.What I use now is rrss (Go) for fetching and werc/blag (rc) for viewing.  Doubles as a greppable archive, does the "river of news" thing.If someone hadn't already done those two things, I probably would have just written something.  It's an easy format to consume (if you have an XML parser around) so I use a lot of shit for consuming feeds; the fedilist bot just uses Nokogiri, I used to have a cron job that'd fetch RSS feeds from a list and then download the page the RSS feed pointed at and then fetch all the images in the post (you can guess the RSS feeds it was pointed at; I stopped it because I was filling my disk with tits that I never even looked at).  Like, resyndicating and scripting are underrated uses for RSS; XML isn't ideal but it's there unless someone wants to redo as plain text (or JSON-L, but JSON is only slightly nicer than XML).
       
 (DIR) Post #B702YPEhPmjyM99j5E by ins0mniak
       2026-06-04T19:46:23.303185Z
       
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       @p @Leyonhjelm @fedilist @judgedread thats what I use...just saves the html files for offline viewing.
       
 (DIR) Post #B702yoaxkkE4XFA7Ye by ffaw@decayable.ink
       2026-06-04T19:47:32.169896Z
       
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       @Leyonhjelm @fedilist @p @judgedread opera mini 8 on a j2me emulator can do rss quite well