Post B5tKPLH0cq32mc5UDg by Pyxaron@dragonchat.org
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 (DIR) Post #B5sYKcipWpPBeSmiie by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T07:12:13Z
       
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       so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.Difficulty: The system has a dead CD-ROM drive. It does have a floppy drive, however... but that's a lot to move via floppy.It's a win98-era laptop. It has USB, serial, parallel, PS/2, dual PCMCIA slots, floppy, DVD (broken), and a docking connector.So now my challenge is: How do I get this software onto the machine without having to slowly write something like 10 floppy disks?
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sYPTMZkhS84bghJw by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T07:13:05Z
       
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       I don't know if there's any software I could install that'd let me use the USB ports.well, any software short of Win98. I'd love to have win98 on here, but HOW DO IT GET IT OVER THERE?
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sYSsSYtsc6mH6xRg by moftasa@mastodon.online
       2026-05-02T07:13:28Z
       
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       @foone usb flash drive?
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sYVO0cZUxLCnEqYK by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T07:13:30Z
       
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       so probably I copy over something that'll let me null-modem the serial to my main laptop
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sYYyZ17ONVRl2RzE by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T07:14:05Z
       
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       if I had access to my PCMCIA cards I could plug in an ethernet card and network stuff over.but I don't
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sYbffVpJnniGMUnQ by pjakobs@mastodon.green
       2026-05-02T07:14:14Z
       
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       @foone I wonder if 10 diskettes are really slower than a USB 1 CDROM
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sYgQ6d7EBQtVJIsi by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T07:14:37Z
       
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       @moftasa it can't boot off USB, so I'd need to move something via floppy that can talk USB
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sYjwKJmAfFh5OJU0 by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T07:16:08Z
       
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       @pjakobs it has a REALLY SLOW floppy drive
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sYpUePaT8Vb1RDYu by tecteun@mastodon.social
       2026-05-02T07:17:47Z
       
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       @foone can't you just take out the hdd and dd an image?
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sYsM6Bq7WhwQnOvw by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T07:17:53Z
       
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       @kewliomzx I don't think so, because the BIOS doesn't know how to talk to a USB storage device at all. and I think plop would just be able to chainload to any device the BIOS can talk to
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sYvSmhRHc5XsA3qi by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T07:18:22Z
       
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       @tecteun don't have the correct adapters handy, it's using a 44pin IDE hard drive
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sYyUV9VnHdjtOhbE by mikaeleiman@mastodon.sdf.org
       2026-05-02T07:18:59Z
       
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       @foone there’s probably a ”linux on a couple of diskettes” thing you can use
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sZ1x2XrX9L7QfOMK by thygrrr@tiggi.es
       2026-05-02T07:19:40Z
       
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       @foone the old DOS versions of Laplink or clones thereof were good for that purpose.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sZ6788I0uzZTGUt6 by pjakobs@mastodon.green
       2026-05-02T07:20:46Z
       
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       @foone but as slow as 12MBit/s?hmm... 12Mbit/s is a raw 1.5MByte/s - that's at least more raw bandwith. A 1x CDROM does 300kByte/s so you would be able to run a 4x probably, yes, that should be faster than any floppy. The things we used to put up with back then!
       
 (DIR) Post #B5saOm82hFLvtOgXYm by pjakobs@mastodon.green
       2026-05-02T07:35:16Z
       
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       @foone freedos should do that, no?
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sae4fU39O5jdcdIe by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T07:38:09Z
       
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       did my USB floppy drive just die on me?!
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sb0dRhQacfy0vsXo by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T07:42:11Z
       
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       I'll have to switch to one of my many other USB floppy drives.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sbQ8aCnVpTmE4Ung by brezelradar@norden.social
       2026-05-02T07:46:45Z
       
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       @foone back in the day we used norton commander in m/s mode to copy stuff via null modem. Not really fast but overnight you could whoop some megs.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sbburpcNgKiHvsci by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T07:48:58Z
       
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       @emily I have honestly considered it
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sbisPl8Tuh8K7YqO by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T07:50:13Z
       
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       SO FUN FACT: if you let this machine spin down the hard drive (which it'll do as soon as there's 5 minutes of no activity), it can't spin it back up!
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sbp1u4ljY0IgEeUi by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T07:51:21Z
       
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       so if you get delayed providing the requested Disk 2 of DOS 6.22 because your USB drive died, and it has to wait for over 5 minutes... the drive will spin down and not come back up.so the installer will read the files off the drive and then completely fail to write them to the disk! and you have to start over again!
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sbt0IifXQeULeo3k by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T07:52:05Z
       
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       I fixed this setting in the BIOS but the CMOS battery is dead which means if you leave it powered off for more than like 30 seconds, it resets all the values and turns it back on for you
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sbw59R5mUYOrmabg by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T07:52:34Z
       
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       COMPUTERS ARE FUN28 year old laptops even moreso
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sc202N1DuAHEId2u by kw217@mathstodon.xyz
       2026-05-02T07:53:38Z
       
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       @foone only ten disks? Tell me you've never installed Microsoft Office from floppies without telling me, etc :-)
       
 (DIR) Post #B5scDQJBgQ2QwPc3YO by tsia_@chaos.social
       2026-05-02T07:55:37Z
       
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       @foone i read this post before the rest of the thread and was worried about your sanity for a second
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sd9c9hnIGQTovQgq by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T08:06:14Z
       
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       @kw217 I have been looking for a copy of that office installer, I'd love to do it, maybe on video?I'm just annoyed with doing lots of disks because this laptop has a very slow floppy drive
       
 (DIR) Post #B5seKRrQVgyFgt6bB2 by fox_rainbow_@mastodon.social
       2026-05-02T08:19:20Z
       
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       @foone Kinda sounds like a 2 cups of coffee job
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sePlGzlLuRLSbACu by enno@mastodon.gamedev.place
       2026-05-02T08:20:18Z
       
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       @foone have I got the product for you!
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sfXe3KakZXDqWvyq by bersl2@furry.engineer
       2026-05-02T08:32:57Z
       
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       @foone Cursed idea: one of those adapters for the cassette player in '80s/'90s cars with them, except for a floppy drive.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sfmuRpuuGqPnGrVw by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T08:35:46Z
       
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       I finally finished installing DOS 6.22 onto itand then the hard drive failed
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sfwo3yVi0nVapTZA by ianbetteridge@social.vivaldi.net
       2026-05-02T08:37:30Z
       
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       @foone Ahh, the genuine 1980s DOS experience then?
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sg2WrrM6FtuotJT6 by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T08:38:35Z
       
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       I think I have a CF to 44pin IDE adapter somewhere
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sgDyfgK4NrKeec3k by akiran_n@onlyfranz.com
       2026-05-02T08:40:35Z
       
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       @foone my way of installing Windows 98 is Connect the hdd to another machine, copy a minimal dos and the windows installation disk and every driver/utility for having usb and lan working and then reconnect the hdd to the original machine and install all the software
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sgNMfoS8IqNbBw48 by GreenSkyOverMe@ohai.social
       2026-05-02T08:42:20Z
       
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       @foone oh noes
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sgp96yT9DCQV8wTY by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T08:47:16Z
       
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       @Tamber that's the only kind of computer I work with, yeah
       
 (DIR) Post #B5sh0Qk9FqsgIPqb56 by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T08:49:25Z
       
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       alice! hey alice.future alice listen to me: when you do set up the CF to 44pin thing, partition and format it using the DOS disk in the laptop, then remove it again connect it to your laptop and just copy over windows 98 or whatever. don't deal with serial or floppies
       
 (DIR) Post #B5skJFmiWRSXfniSeG by Cadbury_Moose@wandering.shop
       2026-05-02T09:26:21Z
       
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       @foone Argh! I remember that happening with a Mac Duo and external Seagate (SCSI), back in the day.(I have never bought Seagate drives since then.) 🤬 3:O(>
       
 (DIR) Post #B5spsNBLVjsoWOnlBY by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-02T10:28:38Z
       
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       @miifox that'd work, if I could get my hands on my PCMCIA cards, but I don't have an easy way to write to it on the other end. my thinkpad doesn't exactly have a PCMCIA/cardbus slot anymore
       
 (DIR) Post #B5suap85MczZl0jBSK by deetwenty@todon.nl
       2026-05-02T11:21:31Z
       
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       @foone @miifox there are pcmcia to CF adapters (I know since I use one for my Amiga 600), just need a CF to USB for the other end (which should be an option on most multicard readers)
       
 (DIR) Post #B5tKPLH0cq32mc5UDg by Pyxaron@dragonchat.org
       2026-05-02T16:10:43Z
       
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       @foone PCMCIA CF adapter!
       
 (DIR) Post #B5tfL9vYxumvTPu2dM by trurl@mastodon.sdf.org
       2026-05-02T19:54:34Z
       
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       @foone what about transferring things over the serial port, using a null modem cable? You'll need another system with a serial port, but you could presumably even transfer an entire disk image to the destination machine, write it to a new partition, and then tweak the partition table to boot off of the new partition.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vmslVhLHI9aOhErA by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T20:39:22Z
       
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       So I got the 44pin to IDE adapter, stuck a CF card in it, and shoved it in the drive sled.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vmzsk8qfsc2tqV60 by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T20:40:40Z
       
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       BUT THEN IT GOT WEIRD
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vnFPMhqKKbZ5HslU by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T20:43:28Z
       
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       so back in the pre-sata, pre-m.2 era, laptops usually used 44-pin IDE, which is a terrible connector. So to fix this, they'd have a little adapter in the drive sled that'd adapt 44pin-IDE to some more sturdy connector.This laptop seems to have used the CompactFlash adapter for that connector
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vnP53IDnJPScoqo4 by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T20:45:13Z
       
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       which frankly makes so much sense that I'm amazed I've never seen another laptop do it. the CF connector is designed to be compatible with IDE! why didn't every laptop do this?Also, I'm adapting a CF card to IDE44, and the drive sled PCB seems to be adapting it right back to CF. Can I skip the adapters and just plug the CF card into the laptop directly?
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vnSCWMuOFNUguIQC by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T20:45:34Z
       
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       NOPE! It's physically but not electrically compatible with CompactFlash!
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vnV4JPsxeQu4DSwi by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T20:46:21Z
       
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       the moral of the story is that when something about computers seems too good to be true, it probably isn't true. Computers never make THAT much sense
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vnXpTxTmglmHSncO by nekoplanet@mastodon.social
       2026-05-03T20:46:32Z
       
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       @foone that looks almost like a nanoraptor project 😝
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vnjfCHXqgBM0q2yG by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T20:48:53Z
       
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       @evilstevie some of the ipods (the Minis, I think?) used tiny hard drives with a CF connector. Upgrading them to a real CF card was a common upgrade path
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vnzOr64RehIwQuS8 by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T20:51:49Z
       
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       god, as good as CF cards are for old IDE computers, I hate using them.There are SO MANY old BIOSes that will just not boot from them unless everything is exactly perfect and what that means variesLike, right now I have a 1gb drive in there. I partitioned it, set the partition as active, SYS'd it, copied over all the DOS files, and rebooted. It won't boot. it just hangs at the POST
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vo3VxdavP6V4SEYC by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T20:52:34Z
       
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       like if I use a boot disk, the drive is fully accessible and I can put files on it all daycan I boot from it?NO
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vo6AZZZVC72DSqRs by huronbikes@cyberplace.social
       2026-05-03T20:52:58Z
       
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       @foone have definitely run into that when getting an old Compaq going.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vo9Lk0VLawXcrSYy by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T20:53:39Z
       
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       maybe I forgot fdisk /mbr? maybe I need to use small partitions?things to try.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5voF5mSl35WmKkRoe by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T20:54:38Z
       
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       I always partition and format the disk on the target machine, because formatting it elsewhere VERY often leads to problems. but even doing that here didn't help
       
 (DIR) Post #B5voI2SFa2ehKdhODY by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T20:55:10Z
       
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       @aredridel yep. it's a great interface/form factor
       
 (DIR) Post #B5voOGGZ8sfBuBCVay by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T20:56:19Z
       
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       for extra annoyance, this machine has a floppy drive that only usually works.It's an LS-120 superdrive emulating a real floppy through some horrible magic. And it only mostly works. sometimes I boot it and it just fails to read the disk
       
 (DIR) Post #B5voTvwXcDnWc0XUFk by oohshiiiny@mstdn.social
       2026-05-03T20:57:17Z
       
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       @foone I recall there being a bootloader for these type of systems called plop boot manager, it enables boot from usb on old systems. Worth a go? https://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/intro.html
       
 (DIR) Post #B5voWDoI9pZabXlu6q by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T20:57:34Z
       
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       "but alice, surely you have plenty of replacement floppy drives!"I DO. except I need the proper drivesled for this late-90s laptop, and the one I've got is only for the LS-120, it won't take a laptop-style 3.5" slim floppy drive. different connectors.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vodfa5IwiklGg56e by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T20:59:05Z
       
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       @Remiberry it's possible, but I don't know that this BIOS can tell the difference
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vohlxbWoSNhldS1w by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T20:59:50Z
       
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       okay, repartitioned with a 500mb partition instead of 955mb, fdisk/mbr'd.WILL IT BOOT? cross you fingers
       
 (DIR) Post #B5voqacb3Tfd910tjE by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T21:01:25Z
       
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       IT BOOTS! Now I can yank the CF card out and load some install files onto it. Hmm. Win95 or Win98? Win98 was the original OS for this thing, so it'll have drivers... but Win95 is more fun
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vozJyyHw1M94duDI by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T21:03:00Z
       
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       MY FUCKING CF ADAPTER IS MISSING
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vp5fSfLKHsUyYfYm by kawa@mas.to
       2026-05-03T21:04:07Z
       
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       @foone SON OF A BITCH-ASS MOTHERFUCKER!
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vqysw13CgmAPBDii by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T21:25:17Z
       
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       It has been located. Windows 98 install files are being copied now
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vrcpoC5pDq3RZRvE by philpem@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T21:27:52Z
       
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       @foone It was in the bottom drawer, wasn't it?
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vrcrRvzYbZ8zAhVI by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T21:32:21Z
       
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       @philpem nah. It was in my former office, and my roommate had borrowed it from where I left it
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vrhIqw370HI9z39U by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T21:33:20Z
       
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       God the scaling on this monitor is ass and a half
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vrt3dKScHLZ4Dyee by woe2you@beige.party
       2026-05-03T21:35:24Z
       
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       @foone Is that 1.5x better than half assed?
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vsKRGKiSo2fSWaYK by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T21:40:22Z
       
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       ugh I I've tried multiple serial numbers and none work. I specifically need one for Windows 98 Second Edition, Retail. This is apparently a rare version and all the serials for the OEM SE, SE upgrade, OEM first edition, and retail first edition don't work
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vsQ42DzLtGMlbkW1 by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T21:41:26Z
       
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       okay found one. it starts with K4HVD
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vsSzVvFoC1DHtWQy by jernej__s@infosec.exchange
       2026-05-03T21:41:48Z
       
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       @foone This was not at all uncommon well into XP era.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vsVQPQEHiNCr0xlY by jernej__s@infosec.exchange
       2026-05-03T21:42:12Z
       
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       @foone Tried VP9VV-VJW7Q-MHY6W-JK47R-M2KGJ ?
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vsa5LVy7J9KQPQIa by ozzelot@mstdn.social
       2026-05-03T21:43:14Z
       
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       @foone find the asexual cf adapter then
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vtb1ym4VDD88msE4 by TheServitor@sigmoid.social
       2026-05-03T21:54:35Z
       
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       @foone imperial or metric ass?
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vtdDexcCAhw4YyDw by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T21:54:54Z
       
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       @TheServitor this thing was made by an american company, so I assume imperial ass
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vtiGzge5jJizfRU8 by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T21:55:56Z
       
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       it's installing. In the meantime I'm trying and failing to find a service manual for the Gateway Solo 2500, because I'd love to yank out this broken optical drive, but unlike the floppy & hard drive, it's not easily swappable. I think I need to remove the keyboard first? laptops are a lot of "fun" to repair
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vtptye6awgejon20 by TheServitor@sigmoid.social
       2026-05-03T21:57:20Z
       
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       @foone it's important to know the system when you leave area and get into volume and mass like ass-loads and shit-tons
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vtygDKe5vcZosCRs by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T21:58:55Z
       
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       I'm doing the Fun thing where I find the closest model that does have a service manual (or at least an optical drive installation guide) and hoping it's similar.And yep, step one: yank the keyboard out by jabbing a thin screwdriver into it
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vu7CSqck4GuqC2wC by steter@mastodon.stevesworld.co
       2026-05-03T22:00:24Z
       
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       @foone That might be difficult to find.I'm very good at mutilating laptops I'm "repairing." I wish for better fortune for you with this one.Some of the scaling problem is due to Microsoft choosing the lowest density and resolution possible on the bootup screens. I recall they looked bad on my monitor when I installed it.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vuADVTCmHH17rHUG by brouhaha@mastodon.social
       2026-05-03T22:00:42Z
       
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       @foone @TheServitor No, that's US customary ass.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vvGzAJ1YwUWGkaUS by d_j_fitzgerald@bitbang.social
       2026-05-03T22:13:21Z
       
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       @foone I picked up a 35 year old  at the dump yesterday!  Gonna open it up tonight to see how bad its NiMh battery corrosion damaged things.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vvXdltooD55iHBMe by jamie@boothcomputing.social
       2026-05-03T22:14:56Z
       
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       @fooneOld BIOSes:Tell me how many cylinders are in your CF card....tell me?!?Btw, I'mma going to need the heads and sectors per track as well....
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vvXfMRuP2a1MNsyO by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:16:19Z
       
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       @jamie a trick I've done with that before is to use IDEINFO:https://archive.org/details/msdos_IDEINF_sharewarebecause even if your BIOS doesn't support querying the IDE parameters, you can just run a program that knows how to do that, and then write down the values it spits out
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vvrSSDbdiXmZWJoe by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:19:35Z
       
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       Windows has been 98'd!
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vvw1COMsDAhRIAwC by jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.pt
       2026-05-03T22:20:48Z
       
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       @foone "sit back and relax". Yeah, right, after all this work... happy you made it run!
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vvyip98rRKZzhz1s by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:21:16Z
       
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       now to install drivers. place your bets on how many times I'll need to reboot.my guess? 7.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vw6SHOXNeJaJbo3s by disorderlyf@todon.eu
       2026-05-03T22:22:41Z
       
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       @foone Important! Do this safety precaution our own diagram doesn't show
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vwBjTm16qgNOuoFs by lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place
       2026-05-03T22:23:38Z
       
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       @foone at least our computers can time travel
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vwFz0UEAHnh1F9G4 by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:24:28Z
       
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       video driver: rebootedaudio driver: no rebootgameport driver: no rebootmonitor driver: immediate reboot? I don't think it even installed anything
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vwJpXLNXz5TqRkW0 by d_j_fitzgerald@bitbang.social
       2026-05-03T22:23:41Z
       
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       @foone it's a PS/2 L40SX, and it looks to be in good condition.  Floppy is probably toast though, it being a PS/2
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vwJr05w8Zo1IuDy4 by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:25:08Z
       
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       @d_j_fitzgerald oh fun. yeah those floppies have bad caps, almost certainly
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vwSVC0O4aMzSbIwq by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:26:40Z
       
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       installed mouseware 8.21 for the touchpadand we're rebooting
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vwwSrLcu3KRRE2hk by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:32:04Z
       
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       looks like the answer was "three reboots"now let's see if the USB port can handle a USB mass storage device
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vx3YqrkJ6j3MNs2a by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:33:22Z
       
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       windows 98 rebooted and fails to boot now with a protection error
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vx6twLnPUTKJXfpQ by nblr@chaos.social
       2026-05-03T22:33:36Z
       
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       @foone Those window decorations do not look right 🤔
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vx9QJoNuwwKFic3U by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:33:36Z
       
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       SAFE MODE IT IS THEN!
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vxHL9rSHjYdZq6DI by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:35:53Z
       
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       it doesn't boot in safemode either. same error. Let's try logged and check the bootlog?
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vxOSGrPMMoizVPqi by jernej__s@infosec.exchange
       2026-05-03T22:37:06Z
       
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       @foone Not without a driver (USB mass storage drivers were only included from ME/2000 onwards).
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vxXFlXGtjYXx36pM by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:38:47Z
       
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       it didn't create a bootlog. uh-oh
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vxcqH2xiWjDsS9yq by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:39:49Z
       
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       well I still have the install files on here. I can just install windows 98... again
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vxkTVxSuVEx64FOK by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:41:11Z
       
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       or I could just manually delete the USB drivers I installed and suddenly it works
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vxpm0S8lmtkerESe by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:42:09Z
       
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       correction: it works MORE. still won't boot, except now it hangs during boot instead of protection-erroing at me
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vxsoONj4dQ1JUzrM by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:42:42Z
       
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       perhaps now safemode will work?
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vxz5UB5NPMlwCcOu by freya@social.highenergymagic.net
       2026-05-03T22:43:43Z
       
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       @foone You wrote: perhaps now safemode will work?What I heard: perhaps now sappho mode will work?
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vy3ufsi1Qkgoygee by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:44:42Z
       
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       @freya I'm always in sappho mode, baby
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vyazfRAOk9jNXnDE by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:50:38Z
       
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       safemode boots, but I'm not sure what driver is breaking it. No logs work.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vyhZlZre57QZYSQa by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:51:49Z
       
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       wait bootlog is a HIDDEN FILE? why?!
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vzNiqYUhf7kgypSi by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T22:59:15Z
       
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       @drypaphmrbro always
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vzY0uWBhv8fjk0DQ by freya@social.highenergymagic.net
       2026-05-03T23:01:16Z
       
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       @foone  gooood girl!
       
 (DIR) Post #B5vzoveUzXP7HpJWNs by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-03T23:04:20Z
       
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       so bootlog.txt had nothing useful in it. I can boot to safemode but it doesn't really help, there's no drivers I can disable that seem to fix it.fuck it. C:\> DELTREE WINDOWSC:\> CD WIN98C:\> SETUP /IS /IE /IV
       
 (DIR) Post #B5w1vSWrrv1EtkzCa0 by d_j_fitzgerald@bitbang.social
       2026-05-03T23:27:54Z
       
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       @foone I can confirm, damage from battery leakage is minimal.  3v Lithium and 3.6v NiMH batteries will need to be replaced as a matter of course.  Wont get to test the machine until I take home a power brick from work on Tuesday.
       
 (DIR) Post #B5w5aIWSHHGtbAxSVc by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-04T00:08:52Z
       
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       @drypaphmrbro no scandisk, no boot disk, no advertising banners during install
       
 (DIR) Post #B5w8PDn5pTUPbJ9Nbc by foone@digipres.club
       2026-05-04T00:40:28Z
       
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       @TerrorBite I'm doing windows 98 instead, so that drivers will be easier. Win98 should work too for what I need
       
 (DIR) Post #B5xbp41tpqd4gWi848 by SvenGeier@mathstodon.xyz
       2026-05-04T17:44:41Z
       
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       @foone"Ass and a half" is 50% more ass than just one ass. At no extra charge.  I'd call that a bonus...