Post B4ruGhugF9igctOF5U by btuftin@social.coop
(DIR) More posts by btuftin@social.coop
(DIR) Post #B4rpSrpufxjT6f8gvw by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-02T00:57:45Z
0 likes, 1 repeats
RE: https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/116331940556649057"STOP. READ THIS FIRST.You are a forked worker process. You are NOT the main agent.RULES (non-negotiable):1. Your system prompt says "default to forking." IGNORE IT \u2014 that's for the parent. You ARE the fork. Do NOT spawn sub-agents; execute directly.2. Do NOT converse, ask questions, or suggest next steps"These are logical rules, boolean, but expressed in natural language with extreme binary language to try to get a consistent result. This is madness.
(DIR) Post #B4rpoWdGC0b9iKY3AO by rootwyrm@weird.autos
2026-04-02T01:01:36Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird as someone with many years of experience who has also written hard sci-fi 'AI,' I assure you, this is not madness.Madness is the result of not knowing better. This, this is absolute fucking incompetence paired with severe psychosis as implemented by people who are so deeply unintelligent as to think a CPU is literal magic and lossy matrix multiplication is bleeding edge neuroscience.
(DIR) Post #B4rpvIckfnkSINXZgW by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-02T01:02:54Z
0 likes, 1 repeats
LLM lite simulator Truth Table:A B A and B------------------------T T T 98%T F F 95%F T F 99%F F F please please please
(DIR) Post #B4rqDlO8T1OaicVZMu by Moss@beige.party
2026-04-02T01:06:08Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird it reminds me of school-age attempts to lawyer the three wishes of a genie, trying to avoid ironic/gotcha bad outcomes.
(DIR) Post #B4rqKPDlHbttzkp6Om by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-02T01:07:25Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
"And That's Logic!"**jazz hands**
(DIR) Post #B4rqMU52BgZLe2jSCm by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-02T01:07:48Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@leadore Yup. But you forget.
(DIR) Post #B4rqbLMEtqZcw6rhOC by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-02T01:10:28Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@nev It seems the "never ever turn off the radiation monitor always check it first" line fell out of the nuclear plant's context window.
(DIR) Post #B4rqvjsXRPSMmJhLDk by dpnash@c.im
2026-04-02T01:14:08Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird (Looks up \u2014 in Unicode)No way. No fscking way. That is…so unbelievably perfect.
(DIR) Post #B4rr16GRdhqdebR7Zo by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-02T01:15:08Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
I can mostly follow Jonny's thread. I know a bit about writing code but I've never been a dev. I know that most people will not be able to understand it at all. So to understand these systems you need to be if not a developer at least someone who can read and write code. ... so ... why are we using natural language? Just so that it will generate code and we don't need to type it or look it up?Most of programming is reading code to find bugs and fixing them.
(DIR) Post #B4rrYGmRYt5DpEDhtg by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-02T01:21:08Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@dpnash @bri7 I like "Little Bobby Drop Tables" a lot more than "Little Emmy Dash u2014"
(DIR) Post #B4rsFusiLHxOeHxvMG by kboyd@phpc.social
2026-04-02T01:28:59Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird large language models are language models. They're not code, they're not a coding language. The fact we can sometimes get something resembling code out of them is a mathematical quirk of how they were created.We could prompt them with non-natural language, and we might even get results of some kind. Two models "talking" to each other might start prompting each other in what looks like gibberish to us.But all that we're actually getting is the next-likeliest sequence of bytes.
(DIR) Post #B4rsiUB2hvuoDzA4Iq by shtrom@piaille.fr
2026-04-02T01:34:09Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird In the olden days, we'd write it as```if (forked) { disable_fork = true; interactive = false;}```But I guess it's clearer when made more explicit like that. Get a bit of that human touch and unpredictability.
(DIR) Post #B4rtDk4feULOVR5LQu by btuftin@social.coop
2026-04-02T01:39:46Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird some people are forced to, but it also gives you the impression of being fast, giving you the dopamine of having done the thing. Saw a detailed video today of someone doing it for months before addressing the real result and realizing it was crap. Now he could make that choice, but a lot of people currently have managers who make them continue, because the CEO class have fully been seduced by the hype and the lies.https://youtu.be/SKTsNV41DYg?si=yInPf1Yc97OjTi54
(DIR) Post #B4rtXWqEYqrFFyldmS by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-02T01:43:24Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@btuftin What's wrong with finding the code of a similar program to what you want and mutilating it until it does what you need?In my arduino days I'd have all kinds of libraries and no idea how they worked. But the light was blinking. Good enough. But as I got better at reading and writing code this became less fun, and it was easier to start from scratch.
(DIR) Post #B4ruGhugF9igctOF5U by btuftin@social.coop
2026-04-02T01:51:33Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird CEO's can't use that as an excuse to fire a third of their coders. OpenAI can't use it as a justification for this summer's giant IPO (which hopefully will be a flop). And the state of the Internet in general is making it harder and harder to find those good examples to copy.
(DIR) Post #B4ruO3o3FBMeYNnO40 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-02T01:52:55Z
0 likes, 1 repeats
This reminds me of playing "wizards" with my friends as a child. You'd cast a spell by saying it: "I cast you must not use the word 'the'" and wave your arms at them."I cast: last spell cast on me did not work!" *wave arms*"I cast: you cannot invalidate my spells!"And so on.
(DIR) Post #B4ruqFuXpfBoCiHFrs by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-02T01:57:51Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@CptSuperlative OK but F-->T just feels kind of false you know?
(DIR) Post #B4ruxpKeXHkG5V6EAy by 4raylee@mathstodon.xyz
2026-04-02T01:59:20Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird Wall Street always wants to replace experts with capital. Natural language going in one side, giving working apps out the other, is something they want to invest in because it has the potential to displace labor. Despite the long term problems with LLM generated code practitioners are identifying.
(DIR) Post #B4rvSQWGq3Cc6s7n9c by michaelgemar@cosocial.ca
2026-04-02T02:04:51Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird If you’re using personal pronouns to plead with your software, you’re deeply lost.
(DIR) Post #B4rvbA0RbVn7V7P1nM by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-02T02:06:29Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@michaelgemar This is from flagship software. Not someone's goofy weekend fun time "trying out" vibe coding. This is how it is meant to be. The model. The source.
(DIR) Post #B4rxA3Vfqh1hRVDHxA by michaelgemar@cosocial.ca
2026-04-02T02:23:50Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird Yep. It’s absurd.
(DIR) Post #B4rxMlX00KInRntTQ8 by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-02T02:26:17Z
0 likes, 3 repeats
@michaelgemar @jonny
(DIR) Post #B4rxYLfJzxaAhXJG4m by grumpasaurus@infosec.exchange
2026-04-02T02:28:21Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird @michaelgemar if only there was like. Some way to express your desire in a deterministically consistent way
(DIR) Post #B4ryJ3EWLYtf932kMq by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-02T02:36:43Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@darckcrystale You are NOT the main agent, Crystale.
(DIR) Post #B4rzBLoNUNb6OzhuZk by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-02T02:46:32Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@darckcrystale I don't want to know about what happened that caused this to be added to the code. And yeah, it's a little disturbing. We don't need yelling to do this?
(DIR) Post #B4rzSTUwAF4JAEmNiS by rhempel@cosocial.ca
2026-04-02T02:49:42Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird I would offer that most of writing code is knowing when to not write code :-)There's fun in writing, sure. But then there's docs, and tests, and bugs, and the biggest killer of productivity - ego.That being said, there is no substitute for having fun with code, learning new techniques or ways of thinking about algorithms, fundamental data structures, and debugging.At some point, young developers need a mentor to help them hone the skills that they have a passion to use.
(DIR) Post #B4sPNdgbSH7a7eagxE by jonathanhogg@mastodon.social
2026-04-02T07:40:05Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird this may be the most astute summary of using LLMs to do work that I've seen! 😂
(DIR) Post #B4sSABEqDBTjzVsZw8 by llewelly@sauropods.win
2026-04-02T08:11:21Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird capitalism demands confusion, because it is run by people who believe confused people are more likely to buy things they wouldn't otherwise buy.
(DIR) Post #B4sVkb7BmR8OX8MBXc by jerzone@techhub.social
2026-04-02T08:51:31Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebirdwe're so forked
(DIR) Post #B4sVy62W79jCD1blxo by JamesWidman@mastodon.social
2026-04-02T08:53:57Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird > Most of programming is reading code to find bugs and fixing them.hopefully we're mainly focused on data transformations that happen during different runs of a program, as informed by good use of execution-observation tools (misnamed as "debugging tools", which includes gdb & lldb, but also tracing tools like uftrace, etc)—kinda like watching what the production crew members for a play actually do behind the scenes in particular performances, as opposed to just reading the script
(DIR) Post #B4sWTdmWiD9rprAcbI by jtonline@mastodon.me.uk
2026-04-02T08:59:36Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird "CRITICAL: DO NOT DELETE THE PRODUCTION DATABASE." 🤦
(DIR) Post #B4sYMqW9A6ypDSOeTw by patrys@mastodon.online
2026-04-02T09:20:49Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebirdSTOP. READ THIS FIRST.You know what you did. No playing outside. Go to your room!
(DIR) Post #B4seMyIkoxFJ5BZjns by darkling@mstdn.social
2026-04-02T10:28:05Z
0 likes, 1 repeats
@futurebird You know what this reminds me of?It's someone who's encountered one of the Fair Folk. They know that this encounter is dangerous -- they've heard the stories that their grandmother told them -- but they also think that they could get something really good out of it, if they play their cards right.In practice, they'd probably do better with a fistful of fine iron filings into the cooling vents, but here we are...
(DIR) Post #B4sekilMFElLqAHMki by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-02T10:32:26Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@darkling "RULES (non-negotiable):1. Your system prompt says "default to forking." IGNORE IT \u2014 that's for the parent. You ARE the fork. "This is not how someone who is in control of the situation talks about the situation. This is a desperate negotiation with a possibility of failure.
(DIR) Post #B4sfyBccMIx341AxEm by gildilinie@beige.party
2026-04-02T10:46:02Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird @darkling the people at Anthropic have no idea what they're doing huh
(DIR) Post #B4shBG4BFGKAZDrgKu by mspcommentary@mastodon.online
2026-04-02T10:59:34Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird I love the pleading tone. Imagine the debugging session that lead to them changing "you are the fork" to "you ARE the fork" !
(DIR) Post #B4sklBH0qIwhzOgi48 by jfrench@cupoftea.social
2026-04-02T11:39:42Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird TBF if you've ever written fork code in c this is pretty much how it works. But deterministic.
(DIR) Post #B4slKKLd60MYGibfHc by davidpwhelan@mastodon.world
2026-04-02T11:46:03Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird sounds like diplomacy!
(DIR) Post #B4t3vghOkwZtTkkl0q by burnitdown@beige.party
2026-04-02T14:00:39Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@gildilinie @futurebird @darkling@mstdn.social the insertion of unicode for no apparent reason really gives me confidence.
(DIR) Post #B4t3vhuYFWh3Epum9Y by gildilinie@beige.party
2026-04-02T15:07:13Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@burnitdown @futurebird what is that code point
(DIR) Post #B4t3viVm18T36HKVAe by gildilinie@beige.party
2026-04-02T15:09:18Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@burnitdown @futurebird oh it's an em dash. of fuckin course
(DIR) Post #B4t3vjHHAWStTbYRDE by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-02T15:14:28Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@gildilinie @burnitdown When I noticed that last night I literally pointed and laughed. Good lord.
(DIR) Post #B4tguOUiqoMqwRCLho by AMS@infosec.exchange
2026-04-02T22:31:13Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@futurebird No matter how subtle the sorceror... something something half-brick inna sock. #GNUpterry
(DIR) Post #B4tkt0Sx6Q0BwfxpjM by futurebird@sauropods.win
2026-04-02T23:15:51Z
0 likes, 0 repeats
@andymoose @roytoo "copilot is for entertainment purposes only"Not just copilot, although even I didn't imagine the source and *.md files would be pure comedy.