Post AZQCfDRFz1jpyvYYTo by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
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 (DIR) Post #AZOhAjegrRzLBZrjgu by bonifartius@freespeechextremist.com
       2023-09-03T17:43:08.715030Z
       
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       a common argument against freedom like voluntaryism is that child abusers will just roam free.i fail to see why this should be the case instead things being dealt with in self defense which over millennia has included the right to help others.one could even argue that states are enabling child abuse by protecting the abusers from the just wrath of the people. it certainly looks like this for a long time now.
       
 (DIR) Post #AZOvdZ0WvWmtv0inrc by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
       2023-09-03T20:25:04Z
       
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       freedom ends up where the other person rights begin. so abusing children (I mean serions cases like sexual abuse, not just slapping for misbehavior) is a crime and this is not what can be put into "freedom" category. and yes, society has strong rules against criminals and usually government protects criminals from the revenge they deserved.
       
 (DIR) Post #AZPqg0GcF6W2QdY8DQ by bonifartius@freespeechextremist.com
       2023-09-04T07:04:21.150962Z
       
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       @iron_bug this giving away the right of self defense to "authorities" is absolutely crazy.the advice for gun owners in germany is to not use the guns in self defense because the state will construct a manslaughter case. there can be a horde robbing you at home and you can't just shoot them. you are expected to call the cops.regarding child abuse one just has to look at e.g. the dutroux scandal to see that every state is involved in child abuse and covers it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AZQCfDRFz1jpyvYYTo by iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
       2023-09-04T11:09:59Z
       
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       we had a case when man without any weapons (they're forbidden for sale over here) killed one of three men that attacked him and his wife for robbery, weaponed with knives. he just hit him and killed. others ran away. and the man went to prison for 17 years.
       
 (DIR) Post #AZQqCnuVIdgWriF9g8 by bonifartius@freespeechextremist.com
       2023-09-04T18:33:47.208218Z
       
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       @iron_bug that's utter insanity!