Post AQwQFHhtsqPnszaHrs by alena_03@mastodon.lol
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(DIR) Post #AQwPY2qNGlBrKtvhMO by Rasp@raru.re
2022-12-24T19:16:50Z
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Like there are Amity x Hunter shippers and while I fine the ship disgusting and gross people can do what they want. I don't gotta look at the fan works depicting it but I aint telling anyone they cant
(DIR) Post #AQwQFHhtsqPnszaHrs by alena_03@mastodon.lol
2022-12-24T19:24:24Z
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@Rasp I don’t ship it, but I justify it by pointing out that mspec lesbians have always existed, Sappho among them, and it’s only fairly recently exclusionists showed themselves
(DIR) Post #AQwQObIiP5htGGFKrI by Rasp@raru.re
2022-12-24T19:26:21Z
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@alena_03 I mean then what is the term for an exclusively homosexual woman?
(DIR) Post #AQwQfviNl4OFUsVzyS by alena_03@mastodon.lol
2022-12-24T19:29:29Z
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@Rasp yeah, when you really get into being radinclus like me all of existence is blurred
(DIR) Post #AQwQkaHQsZYGSz83ai by Rasp@raru.re
2022-12-24T19:30:02Z
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@alena_03 I'm legitimately asking because I don't know.
(DIR) Post #AQwQmjdL4h6K3ROvhY by alena_03@mastodon.lol
2022-12-24T19:30:39Z
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@Rasp Im not sure if there is a mainstream one
(DIR) Post #AQwQqy6pCGMY6lDB2G by alena_03@mastodon.lol
2022-12-24T19:31:14Z
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@Rasp but I say this. I identify as a bisexual lesbian. No one can stop me
(DIR) Post #AQwQzufjLRSe3RnsMC by Rasp@raru.re
2022-12-24T19:32:48Z
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@alena_03 I'm not gonna tell you you cant. I will always prefer lesbian being exclusively homosexual but that's just the opinion of an asshole bisexual.
(DIR) Post #AQwS8wpEo9qVIG7ebY by ghost@snowdin.town
2022-12-24T19:43:02.841715Z
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@Rasp @alena_03 will not burden you with an essay on this but if the time comes please summon me to crush bad faith prescriptivist vs descriptivist language discourse with radical compassion i'm deck"whichever term she prefers!" (covers self in cape, dashes into the night tuxedo mask hasn't really done anything style) (fr though 'a lesbian,' it's fine!)
(DIR) Post #AQwS8xE3JthAXDjTHc by Rasp@raru.re
2022-12-24T19:45:56Z
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@ghost @alena_03 I'm just asking for clear communications sake how does an exclusively homosexual woman indicate they are not interested in any masc?
(DIR) Post #AQwSTkZvXM5tOKsdpw by ghost@snowdin.town
2022-12-24T19:46:12.691152Z
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@Rasp @alena_03 femmes onlytried and true
(DIR) Post #AQwSTlFl1pYRU4S32O by Rasp@raru.re
2022-12-24T19:49:17Z
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@ghost @alena_03 I dunno that could be misread as "I don't care how you identify as long as you're feminine."I mean that works for me but I'm bisexual
(DIR) Post #AQwSql5nn8tZe8lEUy by ghost@snowdin.town
2022-12-24T19:50:31.230064Z
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@Rasp @alena_03 i'm trying to understand the negative impact you're describing - can you make up an example person and tell me their deal?
(DIR) Post #AQwSqlUyHZ1ouCXKjI by Rasp@raru.re
2022-12-24T19:53:48Z
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@ghost @alena_03 Maybe I'm just insane and homosexual women never get men hitting on them and everything I've heard is false.
(DIR) Post #AQwTEaQ57nizUkbmfQ by ghost@snowdin.town
2022-12-24T19:56:49.348983Z
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@Rasp @alena_03 getting hit on by men is an indelible constant unaffected our many delicate systems of queer nomenclature. "bet i can change u tho ;;;;;;ppppp" has been a rallying cry of mediocre boys to eons of tired lesbians past
(DIR) Post #AQwTEakdtMAgWWECiO by Rasp@raru.re
2022-12-24T19:58:01Z
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@ghost @alena_03 yeah so why feed the trolls by telling them lesbians are M-spec? its like validating their bullshit.
(DIR) Post #AQwTlGctjjn3fCBcvI by ghost@snowdin.town
2022-12-24T20:02:09.459882Z
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@Rasp @alena_03 mspec lesbians can speak for themselves; original flavor lesbian can be elsewhere looking at girlssometimes with sword
(DIR) Post #AQwTlHDlWfHTVXR4O8 by Rasp@raru.re
2022-12-24T20:04:01Z
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@ghost @alena_03 I dunno it doesn't feel right to me.
(DIR) Post #AQwTlIAxyYdUT98LfE by ghost@snowdin.town
2022-12-24T20:02:52.376163Z
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@Rasp @alena_03 also i am sorry for jumping in, i have birdweb brain worms
(DIR) Post #AQwUDTAggjRwgBRIH2 by alfredohno@snowdin.town
2022-12-24T20:05:27.275658Z
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@Rasp @ghost @alena_03 Sorry, I don’t mean to intrude, but there are several microlabels you could make use of.For example, one could say that they are lesbian & finsexual (exclusively fem attraction) to say only feminine women.In addition, the community driven lgbtqia+ wiki (pardon the fandom link) https://lgbtqia.fandom.com/wiki/Lesbian defines lesbians as women or certain genderqueer individuals attracted to other women or certain genderqueer individuals.From what I’m seeing it’s more about the gender identity being a girl/leaning towards girl without necessarily being feminine, and treats feminity and masculinity as seperate from gender for the most part.In short, attraction to fem people and attraction to women are two different attractions, so it most likely would be best to simply use two seperate terms in conjunction as I suggested.At the end of the day though, lesbian is really close enough 99% of the time and further explanation can be given without a label if necessary.
(DIR) Post #AQwUDTse3IbysW0On2 by Rasp@raru.re
2022-12-24T20:08:57Z
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@alfredohno @alena_03 @ghost Yeah this is my issue. I only like Feminine M-specs regardless of their actual gender identity. But I'd feel EXTREMELY gross calling myself a lesbian.
(DIR) Post #AQwUidahzwDzyMTM3s by alfredohno@snowdin.town
2022-12-24T20:09:57.170454Z
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@Rasp @alena_03 @ghost Finsexual might be a better fit then? Or you could of course dodge labels altogether and just explain it as necessary
(DIR) Post #AQwUie4qBuKNToZQ1o by Rasp@raru.re
2022-12-24T20:14:46Z
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@alfredohno @alena_03 @ghost I prefer clear, direct, and widely known labels for clear communication. I go with Bisexual because its the most widely known. Labels are a mess if the average person has to consult a wiki entry to understand my social media profile then I've fucked up effective communication.
(DIR) Post #AQwVKjdBzPfdi3ngrQ by alfredohno@snowdin.town
2022-12-24T20:16:31.008152Z
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@Rasp @alena_03 @ghost Yeah no I feel you, there’s just not really good options, tbf a label can’t become well known unless people use it with some frequency.So kind of an uncomfortable “be the change you wish to see” scenario.Personally if a person wants that degree of detail, I might mention the label in passing but in general just explain the situation in simple language.Fem preference might be more stomachable?
(DIR) Post #AQwVKkJ1Tt8BnnN63s by Rasp@raru.re
2022-12-24T20:21:40Z
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@alfredohno @alena_03 @ghost I think its not a good idea. Maybe its just old masking instinct kicking in but I often find it better to just keep the most visible simple for the normies in the back.
(DIR) Post #AQwVKlGDvmUClP4NKy by alfredohno@snowdin.town
2022-12-24T20:17:50.348641Z
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@Rasp @alena_03 @ghost (For what it’s worth, I’m omnisexual which is in kind of a weird gray area there, and I usually end up just using bi or pan as well until someone presses for detail)
(DIR) Post #AQwVnUpw4eI8DuTXlY by Rasp@raru.re
2022-12-24T20:26:52Z
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@alfredohno @alena_03 @ghost Labels in general always seemed like a really shitty way to express yourself and who you are. They're very very bad at expressing nuance which us why I don't use anything but the broadest applicable terms.
(DIR) Post #AQwW0AmDy2Llm0mg6a by alfredohno@snowdin.town
2022-12-24T20:24:38.504256Z
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@Rasp @alena_03 @ghost That’s fair, heavily dependant on the circles you run in as well I imagine.To each their own, I hope you find something that works for ya 💛
(DIR) Post #AQwW0BPDd3Xfix1osy by Rasp@raru.re
2022-12-24T20:29:08Z
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@alfredohno @alena_03 @ghost Not really TBH I run in a crowd that is very queer knowledgeable and its still way easier to be vague cause most people don't need all the details.
(DIR) Post #AQwWpVkrjNXvbXd2Om by prepure_kaede@snowdin.town
2022-12-24T20:36:24.219184Z
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@alena_03 @Rasp Nothing against mspec lesbians, but after the authors of TOH literally had their show cancelled for daring to include lamity, shipping either luz or amity with anyone else is disrespectful.
(DIR) Post #AQwWpWJFfX3HKBiUzo by Rasp@raru.re
2022-12-24T20:38:25Z
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@prepure_kaede @alena_03 I mean I don't like it either but they're fictional character so peeps can do what they want. I'm still gonna yuri goggles the fuck out of everything.
(DIR) Post #AQwX9JFRwM4YbiNHv6 by ghost@snowdin.town
2022-12-24T20:40:36.837107Z
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@Rasp @alfredohno @alena_03 the words are not doing their job of making the self easier to understand, so we oughta find some new words
(DIR) Post #AQwX9JhSGETS0ZTeZU by Rasp@raru.re
2022-12-24T20:42:01Z
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@ghost @alena_03 @alfredohno Ehhh... good luck with that. getting stuff like that to catch on is really difficult
(DIR) Post #AQwXEmq1LxknpJ5mUK by ghost@snowdin.town
2022-12-24T20:41:34.033785Z
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@Rasp @alfredohno @alena_03 if you don't want 'em, you don't need 'emyou're clear on liking who you like, and other people can call that however many things they call it, ultimately revealing more about them than you
(DIR) Post #AQwXEnK9XvrBKlBqSG by Rasp@raru.re
2022-12-24T20:43:02Z
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@ghost @alena_03 @alfredohno More or less. people can id however they want and I'm not their mom.
(DIR) Post #AQxGhK7XhNZF62GlXc by luana@tech.lgbt
2022-12-25T05:12:21Z
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@Rasp Lesbian.