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(DIR) Post #APsWwwBr1IsDBcREp6 by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T00:28:54Z
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Federal Deputy Marcel van Hattem filed a request in the Chamber of Deputies to open a Parliamentary Committee of Inquiry (CPI) to investigate abuses of power committed by ministers of the Supreme Federal Court (STF) and the Superior Electoral Court (TSE)https://pleno.news/brasil/politica-nacional/marcel-van-hattem-pede-abertura-de-cpi-contra-ministros-do-stf.html
(DIR) Post #APsXGcmCuQr4lepUrg by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T00:32:27Z
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Public hearing on questions about the election of 2022 approved in the Brazilian Senate.https://t.me/tupireport/10405
(DIR) Post #APscHlf7rCZ6O2sjaa by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T01:28:42Z
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@jmc464 Sounds promising.“… to investigate abuses of power committed by ministers of the Supreme Federal Court (STF) and the Superior Electoral Court (TSE)”.Please excuse my forgetfulness but what’s the difference between the STF and the TSE and on which of these Courts does the bald one (aka Egghead or Alexandre de Moraes) with the malicious grin sit?The names suggest that the STF is higher in the hierarchy?
(DIR) Post #APscwPL3lDr11YsIAy by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T01:36:02Z
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@johnglavine The STF (Supremo Tribunal Federal) is the Brazilian Supreme Court. The TSE (Tribunal Superior Eleitoral) is the federal electoral court. Moraes sits on both, and is the President of the TSE.
(DIR) Post #APsdJQ5T8yHW0RYUUa by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T01:40:12Z
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@johnglavine Both of these bodies have executive authority of various sorts that US courts do not directly have. I'm not completely certain how they function specifically, but Moraes, in this transitional period, has a decent amount of authority.
(DIR) Post #APsdWsLFPCS1OtLrsG by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T01:42:38Z
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@jmc464 Thanks! To jog my memory - Bolsonaro has gone before the TSE which seems appropriate in the first instance.Time for me to check on the composition of the STF and the TSE.
(DIR) Post #APseievZClIHE5WSW0 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T01:55:58Z
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@jmc464 Just going off Wikipedia, the decisions of the TSE are not appealable except those contrary to the Constitution or that deny habeas corpus or writs of mandamus.Writs of mandamus is an interesting one.Ongoing comments as I read.
(DIR) Post #APsf3hgo8BtbsDebBo by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T01:59:46Z
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@johnglavine Please do. Thank you. I am most interested.
(DIR) Post #APsfUMB4DhgqySW5i4 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:04:35Z
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@jmc464 The composition of the STF causes me concern.Of the 11, there are 3 Lula appointments.There are 4 Rousseff appointments and Rousseff served as a minister under Lula and his chief of staff.Rousseff was impeached and removed from office.Add to that de Moraes (appointed by Temer) and we already have 8 of questionable persuasion.
(DIR) Post #APsfzvYoiUVFgpgBvc by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:10:18Z
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@jmc464 Three of those 8 of questionable persuasion from the STF sit on the TSE.De Moraes, Lewandowski and Fachin.The TSE has 7 judges.I will try to dig into the other 4.Here’s a point - On any appeal from the TSE to the STF, I would expect De Moraes, Lewandowski and Fachin to be excluded from the STF bench.Improper to participate in an appeal from one’s own decision.That still leaves 5 of questionable persuasion from a STF bench that could compromise up to 8 judges.
(DIR) Post #APsgYGSjVheQMUCtWa by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:16:30Z
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@jmc464 About now I’m beginning to understand (suspect?) the true motivations for this which you tooted.https://freeatlantis.com/@jmc464/109390288303119416It would seem that the planets didn’t align so well for Bolsonaro as they did for Trump in regards to judicial appointments.Let me continue into my dig on the 4 remaining judges on the TSE.Bearing in mind that 2 of these 4 were appointed by the President from a pool of 6 nominated by the STF.
(DIR) Post #APsga1bhiGaorsF68m by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:16:49Z
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@johnglavine It is worrisome. I knew that there were some Lula and Rouseff appointments, but not the actual number. I imagine that regardless of the outcome, this is a required step in the overall process and had to be done.
(DIR) Post #APsgvIqWoVB4PoK3s0 by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:20:40Z
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@johnglavine Things are converging.And recall that it was mass protests that ultimately led to Rouseff's impeachment. Well, they're already underway. And I doubt the people will be impressed by any adverse judicial ruling.
(DIR) Post #APshDNWQAUAk84XKfA by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:23:56Z
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@jmc464 Absolutely agree.And unlike the US military, the Brazilian military has a constitutional role to fulfill lawfully.It is just good optics to proceed this way to exhaust all other constitutional processes first and show it all (the depth of the corruption) to the people.Irrespective the globalists will frame it as a military coup if that’s how things transpire.
(DIR) Post #APshQOZVZn9B9LBh0y by sambadave66@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:26:17Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 There are many brasilians that remember fondly the military government. None of them work for Globo
(DIR) Post #APshpfuGGNpc9TwtPs by sambadave66@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:30:51Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 My Brasilian friends, one a lawyer and the other an Economics Professor consider the Supreme Court judges, not left leaning but virulently PT partisan.
(DIR) Post #APshr0cOk5rMg7EIb2 by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:31:06Z
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@johnglavine And there's time. I expect direct military action is last on the list. With the legislature now acting, the protests continuing, enough judges might be convinced to cut their losses and bail out on Lula and his crew.
(DIR) Post #APshvLdQXrWB1CmQ2y by sambadave66@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:31:53Z
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@jmc464 @johnglavine No way, like expecting Raul to bail on Fidel
(DIR) Post #APsi2j7hcAHDtRSYBU by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:33:13Z
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@sambadave66 @jmc464 And now I’m stuck.The STJ has two judges (ministers) on the TSE but the STJ’s website is down.The STJ appears to have 33 judges and the 2 that sit on the TSE are Mauro Campbell and Benedito Goncalves (who serves as the Inspector).
(DIR) Post #APsi2yktUjXUNKuYr2 by sambadave66@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:33:16Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 And a long history of cleaning up corrupt politics, Vargas, Jango to name some recent ones.
(DIR) Post #APsi6isiSHe8ImM5Fw by jmc464@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:33:56Z
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@sambadave66 @johnglavine Okay. That was a guess on my part. You have a better understanding of this than I do. I'm learning as I go.
(DIR) Post #APsiDt7Gnj6a4UZyaG by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:35:13Z
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@jmc464 @sambadave66 What’s your educated guess on how things will go Dave?
(DIR) Post #APsiFBtaSvHybVnh0C by sambadave66@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:35:28Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 Don't get wrapped around the axle with minutae. What is important is they all are extremely partisan and near impossible to remove
(DIR) Post #APsiMKF9pJAiWPI9zM by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:36:45Z
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@sambadave66 @jmc464 I think I heard you.Key word “all”.Meaning don’t bother it’s very swampy.
(DIR) Post #APsipZnD5sfD92ASH2 by sambadave66@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:42:03Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 The odds are fraud will be discovered and the military will quietly wisper into a few ears. I hope Moraes at the STF will go to jail (or Cuba). The odds are in our favor, but just barely. Lula and the deep state has compromised the big industrialists. Remember Engebrecht was tits deep in Lava Jato. Good news, Sao Paulo and Rio went for Bolsonaro. The Northeast went Lula and those states have always been corrupt.
(DIR) Post #APsj1s276PLtBv07IO by sambadave66@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:44:16Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 2 things in Brasil are NOT swampy, Bolsonaro and the military (one and the same.
(DIR) Post #APsjvQ6o6xTGnngUl6 by sambadave66@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:51:53Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 From by brother the lawyer "Absolutely true! They stolen the elections. I told you the armed forces were invited. They made this huge mistake. In the suit they’ve just touched one point. There is more. Thousands machines with votes just for Lula. The data travelled out of Brazil and came back in a second."
(DIR) Post #APsjvQY6TTJ0ASSIIy by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:54:17Z
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@sambadave66 @jmc464 “Travelled out of Brazil”.Sounds familiar.Maybe the whole world will receive a lesson and wake up call as Brazil stands tall and shouts loudly in a BIG VOICE “this is the way”!!!
(DIR) Post #APskJTnw1StZDKKUU4 by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:58:39Z
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@sambadave66 @jmc464 Can you elaborate more on the “big mistake” please?What did they do?
(DIR) Post #APskNGbf2Bi5RJOVTk by sambadave66@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T02:59:20Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 They call Bolsonaro "Mito" The Myth, because an honest politician is considered mythological, like unicorns.
(DIR) Post #APskczjVXMJZjzZ2Zc by sambadave66@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T03:02:11Z
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@johnglavine @jmc464 the bad guys invited stole the election. The Military was always going to be involved. Like robbing the bank after the police arrived, or maybe swinging a hammer at your boyfriend in front of the cops.😜
(DIR) Post #APsknWXiPDsoOW4LLs by johnglavine@freeatlantis.com
2022-11-23T03:04:05Z
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@sambadave66 @jmc464 That’s a very nice way of saying it.👌Something like - “It’s a 🪤 TRAP”?😉