Post AKzHVBYHKp7fUn23Wq by juristi@fedi.absturztau.be
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 (DIR) Post #AKz3ETZRgnxR6BiSyu by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2022-06-29T07:40:23Z
       
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       When in doubt, throw the Kurds under a bus.Congratulations to Sweden and Finland for giving in to a genocidal dictator’s demands.https://inkl.com/a/jXGVVJTvWgv#kurds #erdoğan #nato #turkey #sweden #finland #democracy #autocracy #europeanValues
       
 (DIR) Post #AKzHV9ZGiAj5LHTonI by ClaudetteK@appdot.net
       2022-06-29T08:09:58Z
       
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       @aral I never understood how Erdogan’s objections weren’t dismissed for the hypocritical bullshit that they are in the first place.
       
 (DIR) Post #AKzHVA7eeKER3vZHOK by aral@mastodon.ar.al
       2022-06-29T08:19:36Z
       
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       @ClaudetteK I believe the answer lies in our own hypocrisies. We talk a good talk on democracy and human rights…
       
 (DIR) Post #AKzHVAfgbnSClTUSR6 by ClaudetteK@appdot.net
       2022-06-29T08:21:00Z
       
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       @aral I guess that’s fair. To be honest, a lot of these well-intended institutions lose credibility by allowing themselves to be strongarmed from the get-go.
       
 (DIR) Post #AKzHVB82uM8gBQl6dk by Saket@appdot.net
       2022-06-29T08:46:25Z
       
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       @ClaudetteK @aral Now if only I had any confidence this was just a handy ploy by NATO to get Turkey to accept the new members but then Sweden & Finland could backtrack on a technicality because such extraditions wouldn’t conform with the international human rights conventions.If only there was even one single nation state on the planet that didn’t pay mere lip service to human rights when it suits them.
       
 (DIR) Post #AKzHVBYHKp7fUn23Wq by juristi@fedi.absturztau.be
       2022-06-29T13:58:02.929908Z
       
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       @Saket @ClaudetteK @aral Well, if you read the MoU and finnish president's comments, things look a bit different.- No changes coming to 🇫🇮 legislation or practices- Extradiction requests will be addressed "thoroughly" "in accordance with the European Convention on extradiction" and naturally with Finnish laws. Just like earlier.- There never was arms embargo. Requests will be decided case by case also in the future. Actual NATO membership might change criteria here, though, but not turkey's bazaar haggling.All this does not rule out forgetting human rights when it suits Finland. But so far this does not look like that kind of situation.More competent people have better analysis on hellsite:- Minna Ålander: https://twitter.com/minna_alander/status/1541865826747392006- Janne Korhonen: https://twitter.com/jmkorhonen/status/1542065746808815616
       
 (DIR) Post #AKzHVCI0anhbmcQZo8 by ttiurani@fosstodon.org
       2022-06-29T17:12:47Z
       
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       @juristi @ClaudetteK @Saket @aral These comments don't address the worst parts in section 5: Fin and Swe "commit to prevent [...] activities of individuals in affiliated and *inspired* groups or networks linked" to PKK.This is very dangerous language that can be interpreted to mean a commitment to prevent peaceful activism that's inspired by some of the political goals of PKK (e.g. Kurdish self-determination).https://nitter.net/MartinScheininF/status/1542122680895275008