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 (DIR) Post #9kLPGBujBJragXhvo8 by astrogirl@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T16:16:46Z
       
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       I have this idea in my head that I'm unable to dislodge, so I'm going to throw it to you smart people and see what you all think.The Khoshoggi murder was faked (by Qatar) to drive a wedge between the US and KSA. Calling K a WaPo journalist is not really accurate.  He wrote pro-Qatari policy op-eds for the Post.  He was really a lobbyist for Qatar.
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLPGCPDLyFYD5yHKK by astrogirl@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T16:19:43Z
       
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       Mike Cernovich made a short documentary last year(?) called Blood Money, and it really opened my eyes to the HUGE influence of Qatar in Washington.  I generally find Cernovich annoying, but this was very informative.I don't understand the middle eastern mind-set and why they do the things they do, but some people on here, like @ThomasWic certainly do.
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLPGD8EeaGKSj2EV6 by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T16:21:07Z
       
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       @astrogirl @ThomasWic If you keep paying attention to CernoBitch, you won't either.
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLPMGsHeQuno8Snq4 by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T16:22:13Z
       
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       @astrogirl No.He was actually abducted by aliens.
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLPWbedFNrl9Q0S3M by astrogirl@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T16:24:05Z
       
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       @Debradelai @ThomasWic The thing is, I don't normally pay attention to him.  This was sort of a one-off.  And I really just brought it up because I think most people are unaware of the massive Qatar lobby in DC.Didn't the Senate just last week decline the Trump deal to sell arms to KSA?  Who lobbied the GOP on that, I wonder?
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLRCDEsVsIHXpMamm by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T16:42:48Z
       
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       @astrogirl @ThomasWic France, maybe? Germany? Democrat billionairs?Qatar is less than a drop in the ocean of lobbyists.Twist it again, and again, as many times as you want.It still is inconsequential shite.
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLSJGRf5hDNTBGkYy by astrogirl@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T16:55:18Z
       
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       @Debradelai @ThomasWic The Khoshoggi murder story itself, you mean, or Qatar more generally?
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLSXZOTRAhkI9bEEy by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T16:57:53Z
       
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       @astrogirl @ThomasWic In context, I could only be referring to Qatar.The Kashoggi story is, since you bring it up again, another significant piece of bullshit.I would have preferred a public execution, but what can one do!
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLa5yqc0RrmlD7GV6 by astrogirl@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T16:22:16Z
       
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       Everything around that event seemed fishy to me, and the press just went *wild* over it.  Just as expected.  The MSM is so predictable.Ironically, this came up in my head today because of this:  https://twitter.com/Uncle_Jimbo/status/1144982410326630400Trump is so awesome.
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLa5zRTnNMCbYMhxw by Rawls@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T16:27:13Z
       
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       @astrogirl and doesn't it seem so sloppy from the Saudis? That is not what we have been seeing from them.
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLa60GWjaBr9sFTX6 by JM@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T16:30:29Z
       
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       @RawlsNot sure we will ever know the truth, either way. I agree, way to sloppy to be the Saudis! @astrogirl
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLa60bnSVCiDqCSga by Rawls@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T16:32:50Z
       
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       @JM @astrogirl According to reports he was killed a 100 different ways. My pet tinfoil hat theory is he is alive!
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLa610xwvKxTtyYuu by astrogirl@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T16:34:57Z
       
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       @Rawls @JM I have read zero tin-foil-hattery on this topic, so I'm not getting this from those sorts of places.I do read some tin-foil hat threads on reddit because I find it amusing, but it's never on foreign policy or anything like that.  It's all just wacky stuff.
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLa61Zhrl7tDeEJ4C by Rawls@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T16:37:13Z
       
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       @astrogirl @JM It's my own feeling about it because it is so strange. I seriously doubt he is alive, but the story is a mess and we have no idea what actually happened.
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLa61nB3ftxtQX440 by astrogirl@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T16:57:02Z
       
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       @Rawls @JM As usual, the media does zero investigative work on a story they splashed everywhere for a week.Yeah, we'll never know.
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLa62BdajT37HybBo by Rawls@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T17:05:16Z
       
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       @astrogirl @JM Michael McFaul and other Obama folks were heavily involved selling Kashogi as a "journalist" and even a "friend". https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/security/news/2018/10/19/459576/illiberal-international-michael-mcfaul-khashoggi-saudi-arabia-vladimir-putin/https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1054902686917619712
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLa62lnQIOIvQtTY8 by astrogirl@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T17:10:46Z
       
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       @Rawls @JM Obama just won't go away.  I really hope he will shut his trap once Trump's destruction of the DNC brand is complete.
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLa7IYME7zIALCqQq by capnjoe@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T18:22:46Z
       
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       @astrogirl @Rawls @JM Amen to that.
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLodkJ5yNnerrQxVo by Mr_Nobody@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T21:05:30Z
       
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       @Debradelai @astrogirl @ThomasWic I don't care for a Muslim Brotherhood supporter and I agree it's a piece of bullshit.
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLs0LcQEGp0oywVge by Debradelai@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T21:43:12Z
       
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       @Mr_Nobody @astrogirl @ThomasWic This asshole was waaaay beyond a "Muslim Brotherhood supporter."
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLsdoWggZCPlo4yye by yorbon@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T21:50:19Z
       
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       @Debradelai Oh wow, I didn't trust Kashoggi at all, but didn't know/realise this. Thank you for posting.
       
 (DIR) Post #9kLt1Ex8b96sOJcbnE by masterblaster@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T21:54:34Z
       
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       @Debradelai @Mr_Nobody @astrogirl @ThomasWic He can burn eternally .
       
 (DIR) Post #9kM3zRetUDyWiKR1w8 by Mr_Nobody@social.quodverum.com
       2019-06-29T23:57:30Z
       
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       @Debradelai @astrogirl @ThomasWic Damn didn't know that.I listen to a little bit of Trump when he addressed the press and took some questions at the G20.  That other asshole Acosta asked Trump about this asshole.Thanks for sharing this info though.