Post 9k1B4PiZnG6Z4ufmBU by z428@social.tchncs.de
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(DIR) Post #9k1B4NSYBs664d9wvY by mark@hax0rz.lol
2019-06-19T14:17:17Z
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"Open Source" is now a brand that impresses software buyers, so now there are funders and corps who want the power of the words without actually doing the work.
(DIR) Post #9k1B4NffP6aajJIQN6 by z428@social.tchncs.de
2019-06-19T14:25:51Z
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@mark True. And on the other side, #SoftwareLibre more and more has turned from an approach to make software and technology more "human" into a hobbyist playground for people who are pretty much "technologically conservative"... 😟
(DIR) Post #9k1B4NtUZheFQBlSvA by jasper@mastodon.nl
2019-06-19T14:40:20Z
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@z428 @mark of course, Richard Stallman has pretty much been saying stuff about the term "open source" pretty much since it existed.If we had been calling it free/libre software, they would be trying this, just on the other name. That said, the name makes it a bit harder.Also, of course, it ranges from unawareness, to "we just want to sound businessy" to "we just want to marketing".
(DIR) Post #9k1B4O8jf1qEBStdgG by z428@social.tchncs.de
2019-06-19T14:44:03Z
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@jasper Yes. That's however my biggest issue with the whole #FLOSS community in the 2010s: There are way too many different individual goals of what people want to achieve. That's why we don't manage to come up with any real change. 😐 @mark
(DIR) Post #9k1B4OMuoJBStRWxma by mark@hax0rz.lol
2019-06-19T16:15:44Z
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@z428 @jasper What needs changing? Open Source is winning.
(DIR) Post #9k1B4OcVsJf1fopQ5w by jasper@mastodon.nl
2019-06-19T16:24:01Z
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@mark @z428Find it odd you say that since you just said people are "adopting" it without doing the work.. * android is linux, but that's not really doing much for us. Also it's put together terribly, you need 1TB disk space to compile android... somehow. https://postmarketos.org/ working on it.* SaaS is used en mass and spies on people. Like google docs, gmail, facebook, twitter, reddit. (multiple working on it, including this thing i am tooting with)
(DIR) Post #9k1B4OnrC8jcF08TmC by mark@hax0rz.lol
2019-06-19T17:09:06Z
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@jasper @z428 Could all this be fixed by changing the definition of "open source" or writing some new license text? No, it can't. Especially when the demanded changes are coming from frustrated VCs.
(DIR) Post #9k1B4P22LQ4qwylnsW by z428@social.tchncs.de
2019-06-19T18:23:59Z
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@mark No. It only can be changed with FLOSS advocates accepting and embracing change. What use does, in example, *any* freedom to look at, modify, run modified versions of a certain piece of source code have in days in which a massive majority of tech users couldn't care less about any of these aspects, for a bunch of reasons? The FLOSS community is increasingly fragmented, lost in all sorts of political and ethical fights and apparently missing the elephant in the corner: In days ...@jasper
(DIR) Post #9k1B4PHdPQYPjM4GBs by mark@hax0rz.lol
2019-06-19T19:21:54Z
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@z428 "It only can be changed with FLOSS advocates accepting and embracing change. ". WHAT change, specifically, do you suggest? And "everyone all stop doing these things that I don't like" doesn't work. WHAT do you propose, and WHY should anyone else do it too?
(DIR) Post #9k1B4PVSa1c4QEXIjw by mark@hax0rz.lol
2019-06-19T19:25:00Z
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@z428 I'm not a complete fossilized FOSShead. I am constantly pushing changes and improvements to FOSS practice that I use my position to push, but they are all incremental improvements that have a chance of winning because they remove friction and they seduce corps.
(DIR) Post #9k1B4PiZnG6Z4ufmBU by z428@social.tchncs.de
2019-06-19T19:41:29Z
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@mark ... even worse: With each new variant of Google Play Services, functionality formerly part of AOSP moves into the proprietary, large services framework provided by Google. So essentially you do have an "open-source" operating system but (even if you manage to get it to run on some piece of hardware) most of its functionality, most of the apps built for it will only work as soon as you decide to throw in quite a big, complex piece of software that's very much "not open" at all. 😐
(DIR) Post #9k1B4Pud4RkJgIJOyG by mark@hax0rz.lol
2019-06-19T22:07:19Z
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@z428 I am fully aware of the Google Play Services problem. It is the application developer proprietary sticky tarpit niche that was occupied by MSWin in the 1990s. Which shouldn't be a surprise: a lot of those MSFT managers of the 1990s now work for GOOG and they are playing out the same playbook, while "openwashing" the whole thing.