Subj : Re: Debian 12 changes syslogd to journald
To   : esc
From : paulie420
Date : Wed Jul 05 2023 21:57:51

[Arch Linux and the issues that pop up from time to time.]
 es> I also remember the grub issue (was kind of the last straw for me,
 es> particularly due to how it was handled). And I had a really frustrating
 es> python3 issue at one point. Plus other things here and there...gotta
 es> love rebooting to suddenly be locked out of your computer until you can
 es> manually chroot in and troubleshoot.

Yea; for people like me, and I assume you, it wasn't a huge deal - but I could 
imagine for someone running Arch as their MAIN system, w/o other computers to 
diagnose for ... I thought about how I'd be hunting the web on my iPhone trying 









































to figure it out - newer users, I could imagine just rebooting their entire 
system; I can't suggest Arch to newbies - but that being said, it IS powerful 
for people 'in the know'...

 es> It's fun for tweaking nonstop but I can no longer be bothered with it.
 es> I'm sure this will change some day :P But I now have a System76 Oryx Pro
 es> as a daily driver and I use Kubuntu with the System76 driver repos and
 es> it works great.

Agreed - and thats what I like to do... until I don't. And for ME, I'm not like 









































designing SOFTWARE that NEEDS these bleeding edge packages or whatnot. While it 









































was REALLY fun for awhile, it just... isn't. Anymore. :P

For me.
 es> I'm a fan of the concept. I haven't tried the OS myself but the idea of
 es> an immutable OS is great as far as I'm concerned.

Well this isn't really immutable - you can change whatever you like - well... 
wait; maybe I'm not grasping what immuatable is. Its not immutable like Fedora 
Silver(whatever); I really like the way you add packages w/ text files. 

And if you have 5 computers in your home/setup, you can start with a base by 
just adding those texts and pushing a few buttons.

 es> The only reason I'm not fully bought in is because for me the beauty of
 es> Arch and Ubuntu (and Debian) is the package management being so widely
 es> supported. Void Linux was fun to play with but it was frustrating having
 es> to do something special for so many packages I wanted to install...for
 es> all its faults, Ubuntu is simple as hell in this regard and I'm quickly
 es> able to just run the shit I want.

I've been thinking a lot, lately, about the package managers like SNAP or 
FLATPAK. (PS, F SNAP!) ... I'm kinda leaning towards distros that give me my 
base... my GUI DE/WM and all my CLI packages - and doing ALL other GUI software 









































thru flatpak (or SNAP, you loser!). I want my distro to give me my base, my 
development software and all my CLI packages; and then for the bleeding/current 









































GUI software juet let flatpak handle it so it just works. 

Linux - we're always working for it. :P 



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