Subj : Re: Debian 12 changes syslogd to journald
To   : paulie420
From : esc
Date : Mon Jul 03 2023 04:02:08

 pa> Same... I can recall so many issues - that were easy enough to fix, but
 pa> were a hassle. I remember the GRUB issue that would break GRUB installs
 pa> after a pacman update, I remember wayland issues that broke the GUI and
 pa> require booting into X11 to repair; nothing that you couldn't fix right
 pa> then, but certainly not for the newbie...

I also remember the grub issue (was kind of the last straw for me, particularly 












































due to how it was handled). And I had a really frustrating python3 issue at one 












































point. Plus other things here and there...gotta love rebooting to suddenly be 
locked out of your computer until you can manually chroot in and troubleshoot.

It's fun for tweaking nonstop but I can no longer be bothered with it. I'm sure 












































this will change some day :P But I now have a System76 Oryx Pro as a daily 
driver and I use Kubuntu with the System76 driver repos and it works great.

 pa> I kinda feel similar - I installed Ubuntu on my 'main' laptop, but I
 pa> don't think I'm gonna land here for long... one suggestion; I've
 pa> installed NixOS on my secondary computer - and its an awesome method of
 pa> running Linux.

I'm a fan of the concept. I haven't tried the OS myself but the idea of an 
immutable OS is great as far as I'm concerned.

In fact, having a read only root filesystem seems like the ideal, right? What 
problem can't be walked back if your root filesystem is 100% stable all the 
time?

I think the /etc/<whatever>.conf.d/ construct is a stepping stone to this idea. 












































Like, you have the main config in /etc/<whatever>.conf, and anything special 
you want to do goes in files in the conf.d directory. In theory this makes the 
base install work and any additive changes can be turned on or off easily. But 
it's still pretty messy.

 pa> It kinda fits us retro folks - but with plenty of current tech... all
 pa> setups are created with text files; either standard configuration.nix /
 pa> hardware.nix, or by using a thing called flakes and home-manager - that
 pa> I'm learning now.

The only reason I'm not fully bought in is because for me the beauty of Arch 
and Ubuntu (and Debian) is the package management being so widely supported. 
Void Linux was fun to play with but it was frustrating having to do something 
special for so many packages I wanted to install...for all its faults, Ubuntu 
is simple as hell in this regard and I'm quickly able to just run the shit I 
want.

 pa> I could see myself landing here permanently... but more testing is
 pa> needed. Some things aren't easy, such as getting netrunner to run on the
 pa> system - but I'm almost there... its worthy of taking a peek at.

Ah nice, I'd be curious to see how that goes. Have you tried Fedora Silverblue 
or whatever it's called? Their approach to an immutable OS?

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