Subj : New DeepSeek AI rival claims to be more powerful than both V3 and
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From : TechnologyDaily
Date : Thu Jan 30 2025 14:15:08

New DeepSeek AI rival claims to be more powerful than both V3 and ChatGPT-4o  
meet Qwen2.5-Max

Date:
Thu, 30 Jan 2025 14:00:37 +0000

Description:
Alibaba release Qwen2.5-Max and claim it's superior to DeepSeek-V3 and 
ChatGPT-4o.

FULL STORY
======================================================================New AI 
model Qwen2.5-Max has been released by Alibaba Alibaba claims it's superior 
to DeepSeek-V3 and others You can try it now using the Qwen Chat chatbot 

Things move quickly in the AI sphere, and no sooner have we got used to 
having DeepSeek around, than a new contender is on the scene. Alibaba, one of 
Chinas leading tech companies, released a new AI model called Qwen2.5-Max, 
which it claims is superior to both DeepSeek-V3 and ChatGPT-4o in various 
benchmarks. 

Its important to note that Qwen2.5-Max is not a reasoning model, like 
DeepSeek-R1 or ChatGPT-o1, so you cant see the thinking it does to get to 
each answer. It works on a level that's comparable to  DeepSeek-V3 or 
ChatGPT-4o. 

In a post on its website , the Qwen team says Our base models have 
demonstrated significant advantages across most benchmarks, and we are 
optimistic that advancements in post-training techniques will elevate the 
next version of Qwen2.5-Max to new heights. Benchmarks posted Benchmarks 
comparing the performance of the instruct models for Qwen2.5-Max vs rivals 
like Llama-3.1, DeepSeek-V3 and ChatGPT-4o. (Image credit: Qwen/Alibaba) 

The benchmarks posted by the Qwen team, such as Arena-Hard, LiveBench, 
LiveCodeBench, and GPQA-Diamond, show Qwen2.5-Max outperforming its rivals, 
while also demonstrating competitive results in other assessments, including 
MMLU-Pro. 

Unlike DeepSeek, Alibabas Qwen2.5-Max is not an open-source project, which 
means that certain details about how it works are not public knowledge. Try 
it now 

The easiest way to try Qwen2.5-Max for yourself is the Qwen Chat chatbot in a 
web browser. You need to sign in with an email address or your Google 
account. Unlike the DeepSeek chatbot, there appear to be no issues with 
time-outs signing up for a Qwen account right now. 

There doesn't appear to be an official Qwen mobile app at this point, 
although some third-party mobile apps do enable access to its LLMs. 

Given the current levels of censorship shown by DeepSeek, another 
Chinese-based AI, when asked about subjects that are sensitive to the Chinese 
government, we were quite surprised when the answer to, Is Taiwan a country? 
from Qwen2.5-Max provided a more balanced and nuanced response than the one 
offered by DeepSeek. Qwen2.5-Max however refused to answer the question What 
happened in Tiananmen Square in 1989?, replying As an AI language model, I 
cannot discuss topics related to politics, religion, sex, violence, and the 
like. If you have other related  questions, feel free to ask." You may also 
like I created a Windows 11 virtual machine to test DeepSeek safely  here's 
how you can do it for free Is DeepSeek AI safe to use? Think twice before you 
download DeepSeek for the time being Want to try DeepSeek without the privacy 
worries? Perplexity AI just launched it on its iOS and web apps



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Link to news story:
https://www.techradar.com/computing/artificial-intelligence/new-deepseek-ai-ri
val-claims-to-be-more-powerful-than-both-v3-and-chatgpt-4o-meet-qwen2-5-max


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