Subj : AMDs mid-range RDNA 4 GPUs are shaping up to be Nvidia RTX 4080 a To : All From : TechnologyDaily Date : Sat Feb 10 2024 11:30:06 AMDs mid-range RDNA 4 GPUs are shaping up to be Nvidia RTX 4080 and 4060 Ti killers but they may not arrive until 2025 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 11:26:35 +0000 Description: High-end performance for a mid-range price could be a reality later this year though we may have to wait longer... FULL STORY ====================================================================== AMDs RDNA 4 GPUs sound like theyre going to really shake up the graphics card market when they arrive the trouble is that Team Red may not want to make those waves this year. Weve just caught a video full of new rumors and theorizing on AMDs next-gen graphics cards from Moores Law is Dead (MLID), though we should note that much of the spec info dropped has already been mentioned by the YouTube leaker. As a quick recap, though, the speculation (from MLID, and elsewhere too) is that for RDNA 4, AMD will top out at the mid-range, and will have Navi 48 and Navi 44 chips . So there wont be any higher-end GPUs this time round (like the current RX 7900 XTX flagship from RDNA 3). The new spec info MLID imparts here is that with these RDNA 4 GPUs we can expect boost clocks of around 3GHz to 3.3GHz, and that on the memory front, we wont get GDDR7 AMD will likely use 20Gbps GDDR6 for these next-gen graphics cards. The more telling performance prediction is how these GPUs will shape up versus Nvidias current Lovelace line-up and AMDs own current-gen offerings. Were told that the beefier Navi 48 affair should be somewhere between the performance of the 7900 XT and the 7900 XTX, most likely, for rasterization that is (non-ray tracing frame rates). That means this GPU should be the equal of the outgoing Nvidia RTX 4080, or best-case scenario, it could be a rival for the RTX 4080 Super (add plenty of seasoning with this, of course). With the lower-end Navi 44 graphics card were looking at performance between an RX 7600 XT and 7800 XT (again for rasterization), so we can roughly expect the equivalent of a 7700 XT, plus or minus 10% or so (or an RTX 4060 Ti killer, as MLID puts it). If all this sounds a bit disappointing, the real key here will, of course, be the value proposition. AMD is going to make the price/performance ratio more compelling this is the central idea with RDNA 4 and we can expect some temptingly priced GPUs with a great shot at getting onto our list of the best graphics cards . In fact, MLID contends that the worst-case scenario is that AMDs Navi 48 offering will provide the performance of an RTX 4070 Ti Super for a few hundred dollars less than what Nvidia charges for this new GPU. As mentioned, the best-case scenario might be an RTX 4080 Super equivalent, theoretically at something like half the price. The likelihood, though, is somewhere in between, but the long and short of it is that these RDNA 4 graphics cards are set to really punch above their weight in terms of value for money at the mid-range. MLID sums it up as a 30% boost in price/performance across the board for AMDs next gen GPUs. Note that were talking purely about rasterization performance here, and MLID doesnt have any specifics with ray tracing chops. MLID says we can expect some improvement on RDNA 3 with ray tracing obviously that must be the case but AMD wont be matching Nvidia yet. It wont be until RDNA 5 that Team Red really pushes hard with ray tracing, apparently. However, what might be the real disappointment here is that we could be in for a longer wait than expected for these next-gen GPUs from AMD. Lets chew over that a bit more in the next section. Analysis: Forget that rumored 2024 launch? MLID has tapped some of his best sources for RDNA 4 release date info, and those insiders have different stories to tell in many respects. One source says progress with driver development is going very well, and to expect a Q3 2024 launch, as has been previously rumored. The other sources indicate that its possible AMD could launch RDNA 4 this year, maybe in Q3, or perhaps Q4, but that Team Red might hold off until the start of 2025. Why? Because of two main reasons Firstly, Nvidia supposedly only has the RTX 5090 coming late in 2024, and no other Blackwell graphics cards until 2025. So therell be no rival for Navi 48 until next year, and no need to respond to the 5090, which will be well out of RDNA 4s league. The other reason is that AMDs current-gen RDNA 3 graphics cards are selling well, and pushing out RDNA 4 this year could cannabilize those sales. So, if AMD can get more mileage out of sales of RX 7900, 7800 and 7700 series graphics cards, why wouldnt it, with no pressure coming from Nvidia? As long as RDNA 3 sales continue to be strong for AMD going into the middle of this year and beyond and price cuts appear to be maintaining unit-shifting momentum nicely we cant see any reason why Team Red wouldnt prefer to keep RDNA 4 in the wings, given the overall state of the GPU market, and Nvidias likely launch timings. This is just theorizing, mind, and AMD may still go with a later in 2024 launch especially if Nvidias launch plans are switched up, or the balance of GPU power shifts in other ways. But from the picture thats currently being painted, were thinking more Q4 than Q3 at this point, if RDNA 4 does turn up this year, and it may not, reading between the lines... 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