Subj : Re: cold weather - german tangent To : fU From : Khelair Date : Sun Mar 01 2015 05:05:00 Re: Re: cold weather By: fU to Khelair on Sun Mar 01 2015 00:00:54 fU> your welcome, we both live in free nations, using the free internet under fU> the eyes of NSA,BND and other funny hackers :P *grin* Well, free being a relative word, there. ;) fU> and sorry for the fiancee immigration case... It hurt bad at the time for years. Really bad. Our son was planned, no mistake, and we were going to be married. Yet with the things I found out during the pregnancy and through that period of horrific stress and desolation, I know that thing worked out for the better this way. fU> yes and no :) mostly you can find devices hanging on the wall. this fU> devices are going to heat the water if you need it. instand warm-water if fU> you will. you are not running out of hot water on those devices. but they fU> are another kind of warm-water-device that you can drop below your sink. fU> it's the small version of this drama-big-drums-heater in your basement. fU> it's hold up to 5 liter warm if you need it to wash your dishes or fU> whatever. but this device needs power all the time not only if you need fU> hot water. that device on the wall is called "durchlauferhitzer" and can fU> possible translatet be "on the fly/flow waterheater" this kind needs more fU> power. it's usualy connected to the highpower line (400Volts i guess). the fU> stove and the durchlauferhitzer needs this highpower-line. all other fU> devices like computer, tv, lights using the lowpower line on 230Volts. i fU> don't know the power-stuff in the US. do you have also two fU> connection-types of power? Interesting. I wasn't aware of all of the different types. God I miss German engineering. We have two different connections also, in most places I've been, yes. Standard 120V, with a limited amperage depending on the circuit, and then 240V, which always runs with a much higher amperage limit, ie for ovens, etc... fU> this device can powered with electric or with natural gas, which can drop fU> the costs a bit more. Nice, for sure. There's got to be a way to get some things like this in the USA, too. God I can't wait to have a house that I can fix and customize for maximum efficiency. fU> if it's true. tell the electric company to go a step into the future :P I've stopped talkign to people like that for awhile now. They never listen to me and people with that much influence tend to have a really easy time getting the cops to brutalize people that they decide they don't like. fU> hmm..*gg maybe after the war - where bombs are destroid nearly all fU> villages and cities it was cheap to drag the powerline under the earth... fU> holes where enough there :) That might just have that effect. :) fU> and no one can tell me, that decades of repairing of the crappy system is fU> cheaper as to bury the stuff on time under the soil. especially if you fU> calculate with human lives in areas with serious weather... No, you're absolutely right. The problem is the short-term profit seekers who don't want to see their dividends drop for a short time for something that will have a much longer term benefit. It's all over USA's culture. Also, human life in industries like that is a common known factor, and they're comfortable with the risk and the amount that they estimate on a per-year basis to pay out to handle such issues. It's sickening. fU> it's not a problem with the backup it's a problem about to handle the loss fU> of this mass of energie and how to offset the blast if the solar-plants fU> are power back into the powernetwork. as exaple if you have a default lamp fU> burning on powerboard with a hoover and you swith the hoover on, the light fU> starts shortly to flicker. imagine this in a very very big amout of power. fU> also if you turn off the vac the lights could shine a bit brighter for a fU> moment. you can't blast away all fuse in the power-network :) that's the fU> problem on this day. but we'll see what happend if the solar eclipse fU> occured. Gotcha. I would've thought there'd be stations set up to handle all of those transformations, along with the inductor and capacitance capabilities to keep current steady through that. That's one thing we've got pretty good here in the US, though now and then they get something they can't deal with, a breaker goes up, and you see a Jacob's ladder that can grow to a hundred feet high. fU> for camping reasons you can buy in germany fuel cells. most of the modern fU> campervans had on installed. its a great way to create power. but the fU> aboriginal costs are not insignifficant. What kind of fuel cells? Are you talking solar banks? I remember seeing mats for solar banks; I almost picked one up for the beautiful BMW that I had while I was over there. I think it was just for battery charging, though... fU> what also means you understand my stuff - good to know :) Kh>> Took the words right out of my mouth. My main mission for this Kh>> system :) Glad we're on the same wavelength. fU> the sweets kind not the hallucinations kind ;) Of course I would never advocate expanding one's mind outside of the normal worker->business relationship that we need to stay within in order to keep making the ultra rich more wealthy. I'm not like that. I was totally talking about Shittake and Portabella mushrooms. ;) -=- Borg Burgers: We do it our way; your way is irrelevant. --- SBBSecho 2.27-OpenBSD * Origin: Tinfoil Tetrahedron BBS - 9:91/11 SurvivalNet (9:91/11) .