Subj : Re: cold weather To : Khelair From : fU Date : Sun Mar 01 2015 00:00:00 Kh> *laugh* Okay well I'm totally jumping into a discussion that doesn't Kh> have to do with me, I hope you don't mind. I wouldn't underestimate Kh> that paperwork, though. Trying to get my fiancee through immigration Kh> was so hard that it ended up splitting up our engagement. your welcome, we both live in free nations, using the free internet under the eyes of NSA,BND and other funny hackers :P and sorry for the fiancee immigration case... Kh> Ansbach was different, as was Petersaurach. I got pretty fond of the Kh> tiny little electric water-heater that would exist in each apartment, Kh> that would keep a small (maybe 10G, not sure in L) amount of water hot Kh> enough so that it could power a full shower, load of clothes, or Kh> whatever. Seems a lot more efficient than the huge ones that we have yes and no :) mostly you can find devices hanging on the wall. this devices are going to heat the water if you need it. instand warm-water if you will. you are not running out of hot water on those devices. but they are another kind of warm-water-device that you can drop below your sink. it's the small version of this drama-big-drums-heater in your basement. it's hold up to 5 liter warm if you need it to wash your dishes or whatever. but this device needs power all the time not only if you need hot water. that device on the wall is called "durchlauferhitzer" and can possible translatet be "on the fly/flow waterheater" this kind needs more power. it's usualy connected to the highpower line (400Volts i guess). the stove and the durchlauferhitzer needs this highpower-line. all other devices like computer, tv, lights using the lowpower line on 230Volts. i don't know the power-stuff in the US. do you have also two connection-types of power? this device can powered with electric or with natural gas, which can drop the costs a bit more. Kh> That has been of great quandery to me, as well. I'm not sure, but it Kh> probably has something to do with the original schematics that J.P. Kh> Morgan drew up when he was first laying the power grid with Edison's Kh> help. I could just totally be pulling that out of my ass, though. It if it's true. tell the electric company to go a step into the future :P Kh> Some larger city areas have the power grid down beneath, along with Kh> the sewer equipment and everything, but it's very true, most of the Kh> non-ultra-urban areas in the US are blasting EM radiation all over the Kh> place with the above-ground lines, transformers, power stations, Kh> boosting stations, etc. It's been awhile since I've had the income to hmm..*gg maybe after the war - where bombs are destroid nearly all villages and cities it was cheap to drag the powerline under the earth... holes where enough there :) Kh> It's ridiculous, absolutely. and no one can tell me, that decades of repairing of the crappy system is cheaper as to bury the stuff on time under the soil. especially if you calculate with human lives in areas with serious weather... Kh> I thought that they had plenty of backups for the grid that were Kh> non-solar. I mean I know about the distributed solar grid there, but Kh> aren't there nuke plants and/or coal/gas fired plants that can pick up Kh> the load? I'm genuinely curious about this. it's not a problem with the backup it's a problem about to handle the loss of this mass of energie and how to offset the blast if the solar-plants are power back into the powernetwork. as exaple if you have a default lamp burning on powerboard with a hoover and you swith the hoover on, the light starts shortly to flicker. imagine this in a very very big amout of power. also if you turn off the vac the lights could shine a bit brighter for a moment. you can't blast away all fuse in the power-network :) that's the problem on this day. but we'll see what happend if the solar eclipse occured. Kh> what I'll do. If I'm roaming around in the PacNW here, I'll have to Kh> have other backups, too. Solar is not viable a lot of days out of the Kh> year in this area. for camping reasons you can buy in germany fuel cells. most of the modern campervans had on installed. its a great way to create power. but the aboriginal costs are not insignifficant. Kh> Took the words right out of my mouth. My main mission for this system what also means you understand my stuff - good to know :) Kh> Mushrooms are good! the sweets kind not the hallucinations kind ;) (:. BlackICE BBS <-> BlackICE.BBSIndex.com:23 <-> BlackICEbbs.de.vu .:) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- twitter.com/BlackICEbbs - bbsfse.de.vu - bbs-list-europe.de.vu --- Mystic BBS v1.10 A59 (Windows) * Origin: BlackICE SurvNet Hub Europe (9:92/1) .