Subj : Re: DeSantis and Scroll and Key
To   : debian
From : k9zw
Date : Wed Nov 09 2022 07:28:23

On 06 Nov 2022, debian said the following...
 
 de> I have heard rumors lately of Florida Senator Ron Desantis being a
 de> member of Skull and Bones. From what I have been able to find, DeSantis
 de> was never a member of skull and bones, but was a member of the Open
 de> Secret Society (AKA Wolf's Head) as well as Scroll and Key
 de> (https://tinyurl.com/rondsb1):

Typical "Frat Brat" or something more sinister?  You can hardly attend such a school without joining something.

 de> It seems DeSantis may not be the angel that republicans and most
 de> truthers that I have come across are making him out to be. 

Does being a "Pledge" damn the person?  

Does any networking advantages so completely offset personal character and ability?

Is it realistic to hold out for a pledge-free candidate to champion?

 de> I have to wonder what Trumps connection to these groups are. There are
 de> plenty of people making claims that DT has a membership with Skull and
 de> Bones, but no evidence to back it. We will see as things unfold. 

Counterfactual Proofs never exist, and therefor critics of a person feel emboldened to make claims that can not be effectively disproved.  

This is a logical fallacy - Hypothesis Contrary to Fact - Logically Fallacious 

 de> I have heard from many sources that members of political leadership are
 de> preselected and installed into power, regardless of how the votes are
 de> counted (if they are actually even counted). The biden election was
 de> evidence of this. Maybe its not so much that they cheat during the
 de> elections, its that the elections are just smoke and mirrors. They're
 de> putting on a show to make you think your vote counts.

A separate set of claims which break down into:

Are Political Leaders Preselected - the most correct answer would be "partially" as their "team" selects who they feel is the most likely to succeed.  That team may be so powerful as to be able to "install" a vegetable in some cases.  But do the two teams have a common manager or collude?  Much less established.

The disjunction between cast and counted votes has become obvious and overt.  There is plenty of indicators that very strong influences are built from the cummulation of many smaller steering actions.

The show aspect of elections is claimed, but we do know that without voters it is more difficult to count votes. 

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Personally many folks are not joiners of frats and other groups.  It does seem that they have more of a struggle than those who join in.  Part of that is because they lack the network of folk who know and trust them.

Somewhat of a paradox in ways.

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