Subj : Re: President Trump Being Presidetial
To   : warmfuzzy
From : claw
Date : Tue Mar 11 2025 10:52:00

On 08 Mar 2025, warmfuzzy said the following...
 
 wa> A few days ago there was a meeting with Donald Trump and Zolensky... the
 wa> kind of meeting that goes down in the record books for being the most
 wa> poorly conducted meeting between leaders in this century.  Has anyone
 wa> seen the videos of this yelling match?  What do you think about the
 wa> negotiation skills of these two leaders?  I remember the Dale Carnegie
 wa> and Toastmasters classes from years back.  They would have fainted from
 wa> this totally messed up dialogue; this is totally what you should not do.
 wa> 
 wa> Ideas?
 wa> -warmfuzzy

I'm generally AntiPolitical.  Hating people over ideas is awful. That being said.  I think they needed to help remove some of the entitlement from Zolensky.  That is what happened. He keeps pushing for security guarantees.  Well as a Dad I know what this means. You want my children to come fight your war for you. You also want us to pay for it.  

I'm not against helping them but at the same time there needs to be limits and expectations set.  You don't come to us hat in hand and make demands.  I'm sure that works with presidents that do not care about my checkbook. 

I do not want my kids going to war.  I do not way to keep paying for other countries lives. We need to focus on us for a bit.  

I know that many people hate over ideas so I'm sorry if you don't agree.  If you don't have kids that you don't want to go to war then you do not understand how a dad can feel. 

Remember that most negotiations do not happen on the air.  He was playing at the heartstrings of Americans trying to garner more support for him and more money for him, Without limits.  So many people around the world want to tell Americans what we need to do how who we should vote for.  

I don't tell people that live in other countries whats good for them, or who to vote for.  This is because I do not live there.  I can't know what's best for you.  Same is in the reverse.  I get it many people do not like our choice.  If your not American and do not live here.  You can't understand our side of things.  I hear constantly from everyone around the world the same thing America should do this or that for policing the world or giving money.  I never hear them saying their country should be doing it.  

I'm sorry but the free money from American needs to stop at least for a bit while our own suffering gets under control. You cannot help others from a position of weakness. 

Theres my 2 cents. Hope you don't hate me for my ideas.  I could go for days on this but I agree with what is happening and bringing costs down.  

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