Subj : Hercules - Mainframes Emulator To : Miken From : Richard Menedetter Date : Tue Apr 25 2017 20:08:00 Hi Miken! 24 Apr 2017 22:40, from Miken -> Richard Menedetter: RM>> If you cannot comprehend the above information (which is RM>> extremely well prepared), what exactly do you want to do in the RM>> mainframe area? Mi> please don't get me wrong. The reason for my "rejectal" is just Mi> simple. When the machine doesn't have a keyboard (and I hope I'm not Mi> wrong) it's just out of my generation. I grew up on ZX, school years Mi> on PC until now. All this machines have one thing in common. It has a Mi> keyboard and a command line where to type in. I am also no PDP expert. But I assume that all of them had the capability to use terminals. But indeed Altair the KIM-1 and I assume the PDP were mostly initialized by switches. I grew up with a C64/C128. And taking a look at the KIM-1 for example is very interesting. You have an easy interface. xxxx yy where xxxx is the hex address and yy is the 8 bit value of that memory address. It comes with a serial interface and a basic monitor program. Actually quit intuitive. Mi> Please correct me if I'm wrong... but PDP is programmed by switches. I am also no expert. I assume that the switches were only used for bootstrapping. In contrast to the Altair or the KIM which mostly used it as the main way of input. Mi> And I'm sorry for it. No need to be sorry for anything ;) Mi> And it's not really a natural thing to talk in ASM. It is the most natural thing for the machine ;)) Mi> Whatever I hope I didn't insult You or so. Absolutely not! By rereading what I wrote I relly hope it is not the other way around. Mi> That's why I wanted to explore some of the Mainframes. I don't think Mi> the really real Room computers that used punch cards. I'm interesting Mi> in machines that are stable and runs ... and provides at least in some Mi> form a command line. All mainframes were really stable ;) PDPs have a terminal connection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hyUActgT2E CU, Ricsi --- GoldED+/LNX * Origin: Learn a foreign language... C (80:774/18) .