Subj : Re: build back better To : JAS HUD From : Rob Mccart Date : Fri Apr 29 2022 00:48:00 Ti> > Ugh, hate losing control like that. Once went sideways for over a klm > > when I hit black ice on a back country road. Scared the shit outta me. > > That was a rear wheel drive crown vic taxi. :) > > JH>oh yeah i had a rear wheel drive delta 88. that shit was not fun in the ice. I'm from mid-Northern Ontario Canada and you get used to winter conditions or you die trying, not always a joke phrase. I'd now and then drive through the USA heading to Florida for a vacation in very late fall and occasional snow storms down there were almost comical.. We'd drive along watching people sliding off the road or into each other while we cruised past. It generally just takes (a lot of) practice. That said, my first car was (after some work) a 575 HP Chevelle SS, and I couldn't afford to drive something else in winter and I was outside of public transit areas. I'll tell you, driving a car that I couldn't get rolling without laying a little bit of rubber on dry pavement (did it once trying deperately not to beside a police car) was a joy to drive in snowy and icy conditions. That was when I was still in highschool and it was a 16 mile drive to my part time job after school, and then home again late at night after they'd usually stopped sanding and plowing the country back roads I had to travel on.. These days I try to drive as little as possible when the weather gets bad. I managed fine this winter in a recently purchased Ford Escape with Michelin M&S tires on it. The worst part of most runs was getting back up the curved, steep driveway into my own garage.. --- * SLMR Rob * Echo Trek: To boldly go Off Topic where &#*@^$ NO CARRIER * Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (618:250/1) .