Subj : 2038: still be running a To : Sean Dennis From : August Abolins Date : Tue Mar 30 2021 19:36:00 Hello Sean! ** On Friday 26.03.21 - 17:57, you wrote to me: AA>> How is NNTP not-gating? SD> Because the mail is not being gated to another network or being posted SD> publicly on the Internet via an uncontrolled method. When a BBS runs a SD> NNTP gate for echomail, it's simply a network topology conversion. Hmmm.. So, posted publically via a controlled method is OK then? Before the echomail reaches the Telegram space, it resides on the host BBS (at this time it is just one fido sysop's bbs). Then he processes those messages so that they can be accessible with the Telegram app that so many people love to use from their devices. Those Telegram areas cannot be found by the general public on Telegram at all. Only invitees are allowed in. In otherwords, the ftn messages are NOT public, much unlike nntp gated messages which are easily discoverable by google. Where do you see the uncontrolled issue? AA>> Echomail is a term long associated with FTN. It is a just an AA>> echochat by another name. ;) SD> Echomail is also not officially part of Fidonet. It's considered such SD> now but P4 covers netmail which was what Fidonet was originally designed SD> for. Echomail was a kludge slapped onto Fidonet years later. Hmmm.. But P4 came into the picture much later than the technology and all its kludges/addons/improvements. P4 addresses the absolute minimum for cooperation with nodelisted systems. But I don't think P4 precludes the importance of echomail and how to distribute it. -- ../|ug --- OpenXP 5.0.49 * Origin: (} Pointy McPointface (618:250/1.9) .