Subj : irc / telegram / echomail
To   : Nelgin
From : August Abolins
Date : Wed Dec 30 2020 20:56:00

Hello Nelgin!

** On Tuesday 29.12.20 - 15:36, Nelgin wrote to August Abolins:

 >> N> And this is why the echoes are dead.
 >>

 >> Are you saying that IRC is discouraging posting to the
 >> echoes?  I dunno.. perhaps IRC satisfies the appeal of being
 >> "live" online with other people.  There is nothing that
 >> precludes those same people (or others) to post in the echos
 >> in the meantime.

 N> Possibly. In the world of instant gratification that the
 N> internet has provided us, why bother posting and waiting
 N> possibly days for 1 or 2 relies, or maybe none at all? Just
 N> hope on IRC, talk real time, idle in a channel and catch up
 N> with the chat later.

The design of apps for mobile devices screams "instant", "get it  
now", "live".  The young users never get exposed to alternatives.

Are there absolutely no alternatives that could encourage better  
communication skills than instant chats and emojiis?

The truth is, that the echos are still effectively dead.  :(


 >> How are IRC folks here accessing IRC? Is it via smartphones/
 >> tablets?

 N> I use mIRC and I'm only in the #synchronet channel in
 N> irc.synchro.net though I use other networks for other
 N> purposes...like instant gratification :)

Are you doing that on a smartphone/tablet?


 >> Maybe Micronet could experiment with a Telegram presence
 >> (linking up an echo or two) as an adjunct to IRC?  ;)  The
 >> result would entertain the live aspect of IRC yet still
 >> retain the standard messaging experience too.

 N> Lord no. Still, if I said "make them do it the old fashioned
 N> way" I'd be told to pull out my modem and dial up to a BBS
 N> rather than posting via an nntp usenet client :)

I think part of the problem is that the purveyours of this form
of messaging always seem to proclaim it with the "retro" "old
fashioned" branding.  We aren't going to get new people
interested in it if it [1] isn't easy to access, [2] is
constantly referred to the "old" way of doing things.

Since about August this year, a few fidonet echos have been made   
accessible with the Telegram app. Check it out!

There is a Telegram app for all OSes

Most of the available echos (with an exception for a few) are  
only the ones that are best for casual conversation.  Here is a  
partial list:

CHAT
:: https://t.me/joinchat/SPBwvB0bLAJSx05BUocqYQ

FUTURE4FIDO
:: https://t.me/joinchat/SPBwvElfwUPvwAigYZO8oA

ASIAN_LINK
:: https://t.me/joinchat/H99gCE5QuSvbC13vXhF-qw

MUSIC
:: https://t.me/joinchat/SPBwvBh2-Rh-4NCHB9nvFQ

COFFEE_KLATSCH
:: https://t.me/joinchat/H99gCEfn85Hui-GEb3nwGA

AUDIO
:: https://t.me/joinchat/SPBwvE6RJxeedpvKCT7QgQ

MOVIES
:: https://t.me/joinchat/SPBwvFa9mkCYyzQO8mQeWA


With Telegram, the message areas are truly portable across  
multiple devices and perfectly in sync. For instance, you could  
start a reply mid-sentence on one device (a smartphone) and  
finish the message on another device (a laptop).

It's also a great way just to monitor activity of an echo or the  
announcement of new message arrivals if that's all you want to do  
for the time being.

The S)earch feature in Telegram is awesome. It also filters all  
the links and photo files into a separate section in the app so  
you can find all the links and files people provide http links  
for.

Telegram is certainly not going to replace calling a traditional  
BBS via telnet/ssh and experience the customized ansi art, menus,  
and games.  But it is a modern way to at least participate in  
messages very easily (no complicated node or protocol  
configurations required) with a smartphone/tablet that no other  
app can achieve at this time.


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