Subj : Re: Happy New Year
To   : Phigan
From : The Godfather
Date : Sun Jan 07 2024 10:14:29

 Ph> I've been slackin a bit and am still on 5.7.2.

Well .. I just downloaded the compiled binaries.  I attempted to figure out how to compile within Linux, which I've never done with WWIV before (windows in VS yes, but not Linux). The docs listed dependencies to install, which a couple were no longer available.  The docs did acknowledge this with language like: install "this, or that, or something like it" .. and ..  I needed the "something like it" not listed as the "this and that."  So I side tabled it as it was midnight and as you can tell I can barely explain the dilemma :) haha.

 Ph>  > message menu commands moved to it's own menu instead of on main.  I for
 Ph> Oh dang, I didn't realize that! I'll be prepared for when I upgrade.
 
It doesn't come "out of the box" with the message / conference / subs commands in their own menu but rather you can now move them easily with an improved menu editor within wwivconfig.  It has a more modern style menu editor than past versions (maybe your version has it? it's in wwivconfig option M) that allows you to select the hot key, command to execute, command line data, as well as add lines for MCI screen manipulation functions, and more; while keeping that old school 1980-1990's WWIV feel to it.  It was pretty simple to move all of the commands off the main menu and into a newly created one.

As always my big gripe is the lack of documentation on how to edit the login process without getting into the source, beit with scripting, using wwiv.ini, or whatever.  For instance simply changing the colors are still more global then I prefer.  

I also love the wide screen support RushFan added.  Like echicken did with his BBS, the menus scale to the terminal size so long as you use the stock menus, menu editor, and global color system.

Thats about as far into it as I am so far.  As always, WWIV has that "clunky" feel getting everything to work but much improved.

 Ph> Is that Renegade? I ran Renegade back in the day.. I'd say at one point
 Ph> it was kind of the go-to software the way Synchronet and Mystic are
 Ph> today. It wasn't in my list of favorites, though :). I ran it as a back
 Ph> door only so I could participate in some message network.

I'm not sure what alternate software I ran into back in the day.  WWIV was on an island of it's own in many cases.  Teleguard was my favorite non pay/free open source customizable BBS program at the time but I preferred the source code.  Wildcat was also big in Colorado at the time, along with the CNet BBSes.  I also remember the more retail PCBoards of the world but sold at Software Etc. in most malls in the US.  Outside of that, my memory gets fuzzy as there were so many starting up (some fading) in the 90's.  I missed the entire Mystic and SBBS introduction and adoption until COVID made me sick of the internet :)

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.... My reality check just bounced

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