Subj : Re: USB 3 Issue? To : Barry Martin From : Ky Moffet Date : Sat Feb 01 2020 16:33:00 BARRY MARTIN wrote: > Hi Ky! > > Snippet: > > Bus 004 Device 004: ID 046d:c31c Logitech, Inc. Keyboard K120 > Bus 004 Device 003: ID 051d:0002 American Power Conversion > Uninterruptible Power Supply > Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:c05a Logitech, Inc. M90/M100 Optical Mouse Huh. Speaking of USB, whatever you have is contagious -- USB quit entirely on this box (last week it was one of the NICs, so it's probably defective southbridge). In the process of doing a temporary swap into its well-mannered twin brother... well, at least that simplifies the big upgrade, since now I can just dysmangle this one rather than have to think about the best way to avoid disruption. Probably repurpose the mainboard as a NAS or some such that doesn't need USB. AND I see the 12v line is at only 10.9v, but whether that's the PSU or the mainboard not drawing correctly is uncertain... but the 12v line shouldn't affect USB (which is still at 5v). And I'm guessing it's mainboard, because otherwise the spinney HDs would be complaining or failing to start, and they're fine. Regardless... Something Went Wrong! > The mystery numbers after the "ID" is the four-digit vendor code > followed by the four-digit device code. > > Copy the whole thing (so "046d:c31c" -- without the quotes), into the > search engine, should come up with a bunch of hits, The > usb-ids.gowdy.us is a good reference site. That's tasty info :) > > thumbdrive left. ...Test later: don't want that testing to lock up the > > computer! > KM> Haha, gee, why not? :D > 'Cause . No carrier, no picnic. BTW earlier today Techware was Connection Refused .... relieved that it's back! > KM> Note to self: beat Barry with a stick until he learns better. > Note to self: Ky's into kinky stuff! Get address. 666 Devil Road... > Actually probably just will be swatted with a twig on occasion (which > might hurt wose than that stick -- where's that tagline about BBS&M??) I dunno, my tagline file is AWOL. That's your job now. > -- had purchased a dozen or so 4 GB thumbdrives to use for transferring > vacation pictures to my Mother in New Hampshire and my Aunt in Vienna > (I'm in Iowa): essentially throw-away thumbdrives as they'll look at the > pictures a couple/few times. Yeah, if it's going out the door I don't worry overmuch. Which reminds me, need to peel some stuff out of one of the resurrectees for its former owner. Not that I need a dedicated Vista machine but it's already set up and runs very well, so leaving well enough alone. > For personal use I've been purchasing USB 3's at 16 GB, in 'small bulk' > for discount prices, when on sale. Last were Kingston DataTravellers > and no failure -- knock on wood! (Ha-ha: the computer desk is wood!) Kingston not my fave brand of anything. Most Failed RAM award. Like 90% of the failed RAM I've seen (not much, but mostly theirs). > ..Do have several SanDisk Ultras (USB 3.0, 16 GB). Hmm: Lexmark > Jumpdrive, USB 2.0, 128 MB. Seriously! It has a configuration file on > it and yes it does load slow! I hope you mean 128GB and Lexar :) > > > Will continue to ground-before-insert just as a good practice. > > KM> If only because *I* don't like getting zapped. :) > > So we have found out you're not into that cheap a thrill!! > KM> I am no fun at an electrocution. :P > That comes as no shock! I prefer dynamic to static. > And I need to get to that testing (sorry about the delay) and note what > I have and what set to. And of course the problem is the lockup does > not occur constantly; will note what the original is and what > configuration, reset per your suggestions, and then see what heppens. You broke mine; why not yours? This'un was cranky right out of the box (was a gift and from the clearance bin, but new) and some of the USB ports never worked. Now they ALL don't work. Power good, but no data. > > Need to check still - when go to the store tomorrow wil pick u psome > > more Round TuIts. > KM> They sell those now? I should get some... > Didn't find any and the people working there were thinking mught be out > of stock; a little hard to be sure as the store is being remodelled and > everything is being moved around to make space to work the remodel. > Giant game of Hide and Seek with the merchandise! WHO MOVED MY STUFF?? > KM> Speaking of strange CPU Tricks: Lately realised that the Giant > KM> Server is functionally a Mac Pro. (Same CPUs and RAM type.) Since > KM> I've had no luck installing an OS, maybe I'll cannibalize it to > KM> build a Golem Mac. Step one: find an appropriate standalone > KM> dual-LGA1366 mainboard. > > There are only so many combinations of a version: I've got two > motherboards here which are essentially the same. Another version > comes without heat sinks I thing on SouthBridge: does the same work, > just don't 'make it sweat'. I got a rather pricey copper heatsink for Bullet for next time I have it all apart... southbridge has an aluminum heatsink and a fan blowing square on it, but it's not enough. Durn thing can hit a sustained 220F under load. Boils eggs AND fries bacon! > KM> * Fortunately for them, about the time Micro-Star started > KM> branding themselves as "MSI" their quality markedly improved, and > KM> they became one of my preferred boards. > > Gee, so you think maybe the initials stood for "Micro Star > Incorporated"? And both names sound familiar, and fairly certain I had > some MSI hardware. Close :) Micro-Star International. Not that any of the P60 era were much good that I saw, but their were exceptionally cranky and primitive, like uppity 386s. But by the P3 era they were really nice. > Right. Here the computer I use for recording TV (MythTV Backend) can > use 32 GB but it seems to be happy with half that -- I don't think I've > seen it use more than 30-40% of that. Yeah, only reason I've been doing the whole max-out 32GB on these Dells is because, well, future-proofing. And one being a Hackintosh, if I get around to Catalina will need ALL of it. (14GB just to admire its navel.) Otherwise, probably only time I've used enough to notice is when two VMs going at once. Why I'd do that escapes me. > This system has 32 GB installed 'cause I'm a little demanding at times. > I've not seen it use more than 25% - right now 6.4 GiB. > Nice thing about plenty of RAM being I can give as much as necessary to a VM and not be at all cramped. þ RNET 2.10U: ILink: Techware BBS þ Hollywood, Ca þ www.techware2k.com --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .