Subj : USB 3 Issue? To : Ky Moffet From : Barry Martin Date : Fri Jan 24 2020 11:40:00 Hi Ky! > KM> Yeah, usually a reasonable guess. If you open 'em up they likely > KM> aren't quite the same inside. > I should have cracked open the yellow ones! Thought I don't recall if > any problems with the blue ones and don't want to damage one just to > see: already annoying enough to have wasted money on the ones that > failed. ... There might be another way: the 'lsusb' command > displays a vendor:device code. I still have at least one yellow KM> It does? Snippet: Bus 004 Device 004: ID 046d:c31c Logitech, Inc. Keyboard K120 Bus 004 Device 003: ID 051d:0002 American Power Conversion Uninterruptible Power Supply Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:c05a Logitech, Inc. M90/M100 Optical Mouse The mystery numbers after the "ID" is the four-digit vendor code followed by the four-digit device code. Copy the whole thing (so "046d:c31c" -- without the quotes), into the search engine, should come up with a bunch of hits, The usb-ids.gowdy.us is a good reference site. > thumbdrive left. ...Test later: don't want that testing to lock up the > computer! KM> Haha, gee, why not? :D 'Cause . > > Hmmmm! I'm recalling a failed thumbdrive (thought not which brand) where > > a recovery tool indicated the data went beyond the sector count - > > something like that. > KM> Yep, that's exactly what you'd see with a counterfeit. > And as stupid as it may seem I will continue to > occasionally purchase cheap and potentially counterfeit thumbdrives: > sometimes just need to work a few times to 'get there'. KM> Note to self: beat Barry with a stick until he learns better. Note to self: Ky's into kinky stuff! Get address. Actually probably just will be swatted with a twig on occasion (which might hurt wose than that stick -- where's that tagline about BBS&M??) -- had purchased a dozen or so 4 GB thumbdrives to use for transferring vacation pictures to my Mother in New Hampshire and my Aunt in Vienna (I'm in Iowa): essentially throw-away thumbdrives as they'll look at the pictures a couple/few times. KM> You can get USB2 Sandisk 8GB and 16GB for about 4 bucks at KM> Walmart. If you don't have any USB3 ports, well, the price is KM> right. Too slow for everyday, but there ya go. For personal use I've been purchasing USB 3's at 16 GB, in 'small bulk' for discount prices, when on sale. Last were Kingston DataTravellers and no failure -- knock on wood! (Ha-ha: the computer desk is wood!) ....Do have several SanDisk Ultras (USB 3.0, 16 GB). Hmm: Lexmark Jumpdrive, USB 2.0, 128 MB. Seriously! It has a configuration file on it and yes it does load slow! > > Will continue to ground-before-insert just as a good practice. > KM> If only because *I* don't like getting zapped. :) > So we have found out you're not into that cheap a thrill!! KM> I am no fun at an electrocution. :P That comes as no shock! > KM> Only Marvell ports I have are IDE, nowadays decidedly unheroic. I > KM> like your musical choices, tho. :D > The "Marvell" I'm half-remembering had something to so with the SATA > ports on the motherboard and pretty sure is on a different computer. KM> Might have. These Asus boards use Marvell for IDE and Intel for KM> SATA. And I need to get to that testing (sorry about the delay) and note what I have and what set to. And of course the problem is the lockup does not occur constantly; will note what the original is and what configuration, reset per your suggestions, and then see what heppens. > Need to check still - when go to the store tomorrow wil pick u psome > more Round TuIts. KM> They sell those now? I should get some... Didn't find any and the people working there were thinking mught be out of stock; a little hard to be sure as the store is being remodelled and everything is being moved around to make space to work the remodel. Giant game of Hide and Seek with the merchandise! > KM> Yeah, sometimes undervoltaging/underclocking will solve a > KM> stability issue. > Right: if manufacturer's defaults too close to the edge just to get a > higher rating..... KM> Or when you've got something borderline-defective. Remember CPUs KM> are batch-tested, then labeled according to how much of the KM> tested sample actually works. Sort of forgot about that 'trick'! KM> Speaking of strange CPU Tricks: Lately realised that the Giant KM> Server is functionally a Mac Pro. (Same CPUs and RAM type.) Since KM> I've had no luck installing an OS, maybe I'll cannibalize it to KM> build a Golem Mac. Step one: find an appropriate standalone KM> dual-LGA1366 mainboard. There are only so many combinations of a version: I've got two motherboards here which are essentially the same. Another version comes without heat sinks I thing on SouthBridge: does the same work, just don't 'make it sweat'. > KM> Among the weirds formerly infesting The Closet... pair of > KM> nominally identical early Pentium motherboards. Pair of early > KM> Pentium CPUs. Each board would only speak to one of the two CPUs, > KM> and only when misclocked: the 60MHz had to be set to 66MHz and > KM> the 66MHz had to be set to 60MHz. W.T.F. > I'd say 'mixed up labeling' bu that would make sense only if > you or someone else did the actual labeling of the two specific mother- > boards and CPUs. KM> Nope, factory labeled. But those cranky boards gave me a KM> longstanding hatred* of Micro-Star. I think the reason I tried KM> over-and-underclocking was because back then, nearly all P75 CPUs KM> were actually underlabeled P90, to hit the market sweet spot. KM> Figured the same might have happened in the era just previous. Makes sense: if worked once might work again. KM> * Fortunately for them, about the time Micro-Star started KM> branding themselves as "MSI" their quality markedly improved, and KM> they became one of my preferred boards. Gee, so you think maybe the initials stood for "Micro Star Incorporated"? And both names sound familiar, and fairly certain I had some MSI hardware. > > At least you figured out the problem: I pretty much go with the defaults > so don't fiddle with the overclocking/underclocking. KM> Same here. The New! Improved!! hardware reportedly overclocks KM> stable to 4.5GHz, from its default 3.7GHz... while that's a KM> pretty good jump, I'm not doing anything that needs it, so why KM> have to deal with that much more heat?? and to really take KM> advantage, I'd need to buy More! Expensive!! RAM, and it already KM> has 32GB of the Good Stuff That Matches Current CPU Settings, and KM> was quite sufficiently expensive. Right. Here the computer I use for recording TV (MythTV Backend) can use 32 GB but it seems to be happy with half that -- I don't think I've seen it use more than 30-40% of that. This system has 32 GB installed 'cause I'm a little demanding at times. I've not seen it use more than 25% - right now 6.4 GiB. ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... ClientSez: This program says I have insignificant memory. --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .