Subj : Re: USB 3 Issue?
To   : Barry Martin
From : Ky Moffet
Date : Tue Jan 21 2020 13:57:00

BARRY MARTIN wrote:
> Hi Ky!
> 
>   > Mike and Ky (and anyone else!):
>   KM> Anyone! speak up! :D
> 
> Or here preferably type!

I thought I'd try smoke signals. :D

>   KM> ADATA have a dreadful rep, as I've mentioned before. I expect
>   KM> they're strictly rebadging seconds (not manufacturing their own
>   KM> chips) so what you get depends on the source... and they may
>   KM> differentiate source by color.
> 
> That might explain why 'all' blues worked and 'all' of the yellows

Yeah, usually a reasonable guess. If you open 'em up they likely aren't 
quite the same inside.

> didn't.  I was also thinking it was a slightly odd name for an
> electronics company: 'a-' is a Latin prefix for 'without/lack of'.....

Bit alarming, eh? :)

> 
>   KM> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_flash_drive#Counterfeit_products
> 
>   KM> ======
>   KM> Counterfeit products
> 
> Hmmmm! I'm recalling a failed thumbdrive (thought not which brand) where
> a recovery tool indicated the data went beyond the sector count -
> something like that.

Yep, that's exactly what you'd see with a counterfeit.

>   > ..Suggestions? Ideas?
>   KM> Shouldn't be static with USB stuff, because it self-grounds.
>   KM> (Same with SATA.) Also, judging by the shocks I've seen this
>   KM> stuff survive unfazed, it's not really all that sensitive. My
>   KM> New! Improved!! mainboard (Asus P9X79LE, about 5 years old) has a
>   KM> function to protect itself from static or overvoltage, which I
>   KM> expect is probably fairly standard now.
> 
> OK, good.  I don't recall hearing a zap but couldn't absolutely say no.
> Will continue to ground-before-insert just as a good practice.

If only because *I* don't like getting zapped. :)

>   KM> Response in comments:
>   KM> =========
>   KM> Make sure you have all drives plugged into the Intel ports, these
>   KM> are the white or black SATA ports and USB 2.0 ports. Disable the
>   KM> Marvell SATA ports and Etron USB ports in the BIOS.
> 
> Will check that one out: "Marvell" doesn't sound quite right but does
> sound close to one (maybe a pair) port on the motherboard.  "Etron"
> doesn't sound familiar.  (Why am I thinking Eltron Port, song writer to
> "Good Bye Yellow Bricked Load" and "Crocodile Clip"??)

Only Marvell ports I have are IDE, nowadays decidedly unheroic. I like 
your musical choices, tho. :D

>>   KM> C3, C6, EIST and CPU PLL Overvoltage solved it for some people so
>   KM> you may want to try that. ==========
>   
> OK, thanks!  No overclocking/overvoltage tweaks done here -- I can get
> in enough trouble as is! -- but quite possible the manufacturer's
> default values 'turned up the control' a bit to make the motherboard's
> specs look better.

Yeah, sometimes undervoltaging/underclocking will solve a stability issue.

Among the weirds formerly infesting The Closet... pair of nominally 
identical early Pentium motherboards. Pair of early Pentium CPUs. Each 
board would only speak to one of the two CPUs, and only when misclocked: 
the 60MHz had to be set to 66MHz and the 66MHz had to be set to 60MHz. 
W.T.F.
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