Subj : Re: Slimmed down Debian
To   : Mike Powell
From : Ky Moffet
Date : Sun Aug 18 2019 20:03:00

Database for this echo is all messed up. Whole bunch of getting same 
message when I click on different ones in the list. (First correct 
message is 8-15-2015.) Ah well, not that I said anything all that 
important. :)


MIKE POWELL wrote:
> Moving to the NIX area...
> 
>> Quite possibly Ubuntu is too much for your machines; do know there are

Ubuntu has always been a hog. Gnome has always been a hog too. Just 
about anything else is slimmer. I don't even bother looking at *buntu 
anymore.

>> condensed and lighter versions of Linux out there, just haven't used
>> them.  Some time back (year or more) Ky posted some of his experiences
>> with them.

Last time around I tested about 150 distros. I could go on at tiresome 
length. :D  But wasn't real surprised that I still prefer Mandrake 
descendants.

> Yeah, I have been meaning to ask around about any possible debian
> derivitives which are based on 8 or 9 but which keep the kernel and
> security packages updated.

My question is... why Debian??
https://www.debian.org/derivatives/

I've had little luck with Debian under its own name, and when it did 
finally run, performance wasn't very good.

There exists Mint-Debian Edition (LMDE), and Mint is relatively mature 
and well-supported, being one of the most popular distros. Mint loads 
only about 25% as much STUFF as Ubuntu, and runs correspondingly better 
on limited hardware. LMDE is supposed to have better performance than 
Ubuntu-based Mint, but in my experience was slightly slower. But it'll 
still run rings around Ubuntu.

https://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

I see this ISO is about a year old, so will probably need a lot of 
updating after install, given it's semi-rolling. But it's based on 
Debian stretch, a long-term release, so should have support for several 
years.

Looks like right now LMDE is only built with Cinnamon. It used to also 
be available with Mate (for those who liked Gnome2); probably can still 
install it with the package manager.

There's also Debian Dog, which has various desktops:
https://debiandog.github.io/doglinux/
When I've looked at Debian Dog releases, they've been pretty good, if 
not entirely what I wanted. (I like Puppy, but not for everyday.) They 
are quite small and nimble, compared to most distros.


Myself, I wound up going with PCLinuxOS. Runs slick on old hardware, and 
out of all those I tried, it was the most Just Works. Also, it uses a 
descendant of Drak-config, which gives you SOOO much more control over 
look and feel.Rolling release, which I prefer, because reinstalling is 
against my religion. I use KDE/Plasma desktop (beaten until it looks 
like KDE4), and sometimes Trinity (which is very XP-like). KDE has been 
100% stable; Trinity slightly less so.
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