Subj : Slimmed down Debian To : Ky Moffet From : Barry Martin Date : Thu Nov 07 2019 13:55:00 > Hi Ky! KM> Oh, that's me! Knew it was a pseudonym! > One of the things about Deja Dup is the recovery/restore portion is via > Terminal, or at least time I looked I didn't see anything in GUI. Then > it pulls up a GUI ut that almost seems like it doesn't serve any purpose > except to click to go on to the next step: click
(or whatever > the button is labeled) and appears nothing is happening. So be patient > as it appears nothing is happening yet your recovery is occurring. KM> Weird... Yes. May be not as confusing with 'normal' colour vision: I'm somewhat red/green colour blind so maybe looks better and so makes more sense to someone else's eyeballs. Or maybe something is screwed up: remember some time back there was a setting in Firefox I couldn't find. (Good news: others overlooked it too.) The radio buttons didn't have the button outline around the words. 'Button' action worked fine, just wasn't obvious it was a push button. KM> I try to avoid the terminal, because it's so blind -- I always KM> feel like I have no idea where anything is going. Not like DOS at KM> all, despite the superficial similarity. Yes, there are a few quirks. I've sort of learned to be terribly specific: full path on both sides of the copy command, for instance, even though in the correct/desired directory. Sort of did that with MS-DOS though, so not a real change. Good news: one can drag a file from the GUI and Ubuntu will convert to the full path text for you. I've generally copied this to a gedit file, get the other partion, then combine the two and add any commands in gedit, then copy to Terminal. Sounds a bit of work but saves typing and potential typos. > KM> We also have KBackup: > KM> https://kde.org/applications/utilities/org.kde.kbackup > KM> It's much more easily granular. > KM> Nice thing about the KApps, they all look and behave alike, and > KM> they all respect your desktop config. > I don't think I've had any issues with configurations being changed, or > are you meaning something different than what I'm thinking? KM> No, I mean you don't have to relearn the interface for each and KM> every app. And if you have workspaces set to A theme, N color, KM> and X font, that's what they'll use, not something picked at the KM> coder's whim. OK - yes, that does sound easier on the user: all the same, less likelihood to mis-click ("it's this one on the other app"). > Automated is (generally) good! As for restoring the OS, could also be a > good idea to have a backup to GRUB's ability to go back one or two -- as > you said, GRUB can go bad too. KM> And above all GRUB should be bulletproof. Should tell you KM> something... Agree, though I will admit to thinking nothing is 100% failure-free. > KM> Yeah, that's good if the system will start... if you can't get as > KM> far as GRUB, like when Mint committed seppuku on me... not so > KM> much. > Here no problem with the system starting, just a problem with getting it > going. As I recall an incompatibility with an nVidia utility and the > system just kept rebooting. ... to get to GRUB to select the > earlier version. At least GRUB wasn't screwed up! KM> Yeah, the kernel after ... um, what's on Cash? Without going to KM> look, after 4.1.9 or some such antiquity -- isn't compatible with KM> older NVidia drivers, IIRC 3.40 and before. Which is one reason I KM> froze the old box and have been poking at making a new box. With KM> mixed results so far... Old-old hardware tends to fall out of support, so a good thing to freeze. I had a USB hard drive adapter (supply your own hard drive) which worked one time but not the next. A little Googling, others having the same problem because no longer supported. OTOH the company had gone out of business a few years prior, but.... Did part the adapter: the metal case is the support between the little heater under my computer desk and the carpet. KM> The only Debian (never had much luck with it) that would run or KM> install is with Cinnamon, which is tolerable but not my first KM> choice. It did something to my pre-done partitions so PCLOS KM> wouldn't have anything to do with it: Swap? what swap?? Also, KM> Debian took about an hour to install. Everything else on that box KM> installs in 5 minutes or less. I've had some installations take about an hour total but that's also with formatting some rather large drives. Usually I have used DVD installation but last couple USB (thumb) drive -- soooo much faster! The only thing I don't like about using a thumbdrive is there are portions of the install where nothing appears to happen - at least with the DVD can see the LED blink. As for Swap, appears if sufficient RAM is detected a tiny Swap will be installed, more to satisfy those applications and utilities thinking they need a Swap area. KM> Fedora/KDE left to its own decisions defaulted to LVM KM> partitioning which refuses to be resized, and can't be read by KM> live setups. And what's with the package managers? One is so dumb KM> you can't find anything and the other is so smart you can't find KM> anything. Synaptic may be quirky and ugly but it's easier to use. I've not played with Logical Volume Management; from limited expleriences here with various Ubuntus it was an option and never a requirment. KM> *sigh* I keep being reminded why I settled on PCLOS. I think some people just have problems with certain things. Dad always had problems with a certain retailer so usually went to another; I had problems with the one he didn't. (Not a great comparison as my experiences were 1000 miles away.) Windows never behaved all that well on my computers; early-early I could go DOS to WFWG but try to load WFWG first and shell to DOS - nope! KM> And I prefer real installs to VMs, but ... I might change my KM> mind. I have found a few issues with Virtual XP on a couple of installs here. For what I do not that big of a deal but can see where the minor nuisance problem I'm having could beceom a major issue in certain uses. ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... Teenagers. 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