Subj : Ubuntu replaces core
To   : Ky Moffet
From : Barry Martin
Date : Thu Oct 30 2025 06:57:00


Hi Ky!

 >   >   KM> ....with new versions written in Rust, and hilarity ensues.
 >   >   KM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3JqErfYGWk
 >   > Looks like I won't be "upgrading" for a version or two!
 >   KM> Yeah, I wouldn't either.
 >   KM> When basic functions like dd don't work.... that's a problem!
 > Definitely!  Not sure if dd is the base for all or most forms of file
 > copying but is a well-used utility.
 > Almost sounds like the version was put out to keep with the April and
 > October schedule.  Nice in theory, obviously this one should have been
 > delayed (if not scrapped).
 KM> Yeah, obviously. But it wasn't to keep schedule, it was whiney
 KM> brats going "You can't make me!" They've set their hearts on
 KM> swapping out C/C++ for Rust, and when numerous actual programmers
 KM> pointed out the problems with Rust, the whiney brats went "DO IT
 KM> NOW!" and the question of ready or not went out the window.
 
Not knowing who the 'whiney brats' are I'd guess they're powerful 
enough to be able to chop heads but as with a lot of leaders don't know 
diddly-squat about how the stuff they're overseeing actually works.  IMO
good to try something new but then also needs to be tested and found to 
work.

And yes, a somewhat generic reply because I don't know details, both on
the personnel issues and the software.  I had not heard of RUST until 
recent and for all I know it could stand for Really Unsupported Software
Trasher. <g>


 KM> The theory is that Rust is "memory safe" by default, but turns
 KM> out you still need to have programmers who actually know what
 KM> they're doing, and Rust, being the cool kid on the block, has
 KM> attracted a lot of rather novice hands at the task, and it wasn't
 KM> just a matter of swapping out functions.
 
Never is.  There are always basic steps one must know.  

Might look like the right thing to do employment-wise to jump on the
RUST train as is the mode of software travel into the future, but it
still has to work: a train with a powerful engine sitting on shiny
aluminum foil wheels isn't going anywhere.


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