Subj : Re: GIMP Up
To   : KY MOFFET
From : Mike Powell
Date : Sun Aug 31 2025 09:47:14

> > Even if it is a flatpak it can get broken.  I was running an older version
> > of shotcut, installed outside of apt/dpkg, because the debian version
> > that came with 11 or 12 did not work.  I always assumed it needed too many
> > resources.

> Meaning  the flatpak just keeps that program and its immediate
> dependencies together, but does nothing for what it has to interface
> with in the OS itself.

Correct!

> > With the upgrade to 13, it became unable to render video.  I was able to
> > install the version that comes with 13 and it did work, thank goodness.

> Oh my... I'm reminded I need to upgrade the Debian I keep on General
> Principles, tho I don't use it for anything. And here I just got it
> updated to 12, which had refused to update but would install over the
> top of 10 without messing up the existing setup. My brain hurts.

Yeah, you cannot skip versions on debian upgrades.  I think you used to be
able to skip maybe one and get away with it but not any more.

> > I hate to say it, but I can see a time in the near future where keeping up
> > with the latest linux releases (so one can keep up with the security
> > updates!) is going to be just like keeping up with windows... lots of stuff
> > breaking and lots of "it isn't a bug, it's a feature" instances.  :(

> Too late. It's already there. I just had Fedora apparently commit
> sepukku post update. Had to drop back one kernel to get a desktop.

> (Mine are all KDE, which has generally been pretty good about not
> breaking even with major version upgrades. KDE itself is fine, it's
> somewhere in the guts that failed.)

Good to know.  My BBS machine runs IceWM and it (knock-on-wood!) never
seems to cause me any issues.

Mike

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