Subj : Remmina RDP To : Ky Moffet From : Barry Martin Date : Sat May 18 2024 07:54:00 Hi Ky! (Originally to Mike) > I'd guess a mix of all that! I'm sort of learned to test new stuff on a > Virtual Machine because if don't like it or misconfigured easier to > blast the VM -- the uninstall, purge, etc., processes don't always > remove all traces. KM> Assuming you can get it to install and run in the VM. You should KM> hear my VM War Stories.... I don't play all that much but have had a few instances where it just doesn't play nice. I've also been using Raspberry Pi's for a disposable machine. No, not going to toss the Pi itself, but can overwrite the SD card and so remove all traces of the failed experiment. > Yes, the 'rolling upgrade process' can be a litte detail-filled! KM> "Rolling" is supposed to refer to the software, not the server KM> cabinet! Only when forget to set the brakes on the cabinet's wheels! KM> I've come to greatly prefer a rolling distro for an everyday KM> desktop. There are NO UPGRADES and therefore NO REINSTALLS. KM> Someone took the oldest extant PCLOS from 2010 to 2021 (I think KM> it was) using only the rolling update process via Synaptic, and KM> only twice did he have to stop and twiddle something at the KM> command line. But normally it's just click-the-usuals, go away KM> for a while, and it's done. KM> The other advantage is that problems get fixed NOW, not when the KM> next major version rolls around. That option has advantages and disadvantages. I do like the 'fixed now', assuming it doesn't break something else. (Of course the latter is a possibility any time.) Ubuntu does have LivePatch, which is probably your fix-it-now. Around here I'd prefer manual version upgrades, meaning to go from version 22 to version 23, not the more-minor updates. Have had old computers no longer work properly with upgrades: IMO not a fault of the OS, though one could say it didn't check for compatibility. KM> The downside is you have to do your updates regularly, because it KM> can get out of sync if you let things go too long. (Tho Synaptic KM> at least is pretty good at squaring things up.) But it's fast KM> enough, given it's usually small, to do 'em often. Agree: though with the limited experience I have it seems Ubuntu does a reasonable job: it seems one can take a 'basic' version (say 22.04.03), which does the installaion and original versions, then at the end of the installation ask for the updates and it will d/l umpteen files, od the magic, and now 22.04.39. (Making up the numbers.) KM> So my experience is that overall, rolling is more stable, because KM> it's always up to date and there are never any major upheavals. I can see thar. KM> Speaking therewhich, I need to do the twice-yearly version KM> upgrade on the Fedora system, which I keep forgetting because KM> it's an overnight job (sometimes two nights) and takes some KM> babysitting before it gets going. Grrr. And if you're like me the babysitting is the major part of the delay! Good reason to have two monitors so can have one on the upgrading system and the other for while-I'm-sitting-here-do-e-mail, etc. ¯ ® ¯ BarryMartin3@MyMetronet.NET ® ¯ ® .... Q: How prevent diseases caused by biting insects? A: Don't bite any. --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .