Subj : Re: Remmina RDP To : Mike Powell From : Ky Moffet Date : Mon May 13 2024 19:08:00 MIKE POWELL wrote: >> PCLOS is a one-man-band, Tex is getting on in years and health not good, >> so I've been hoping to find another distro I like as well, in case no >> one takes up the torch. So I was glad to see Devuan at least adding the >> desktop. (Never liked Debian, tho..) > > That is good to see someone else pick it up. When I first wanted to try Yeah, Tex has it optimized and the installer set up so it's WAY slicker than anything else. Full install of the everything-and-the-kitchen-sink edition takes five minutes and two clicks. Reboot on an i7-3xxx is 30 seconds from power-cycle to desktop. And it's very reliable. > linux, I got started with a CLI-only version of Slackware. I got a basic > understanding of the command line. When I got a faster system I wanted to > try a GUI. I tried several different distros, all based on either Slackware > or Red Hat. The installers on a few were actually graphical, and those > installer would do a *great* job identifying and correctly working with my > video card. The first linux I installed was RedHat6. It was dreadful. I had Win95 on the same hardware and it ran rings around RH. RH was downright sluggish, and there was no getting it to play nice with the fairly-ordinary vidcard (stuck at 640x480). One day it forgot its password, and that was when I made it go away. > However, who knows why, despite all of the "does this look good?" tests, > etc., the installers did, when it actually came to installing a *desktop* > that worked correctly, they all failed miserably. Yeah, it used to be pretty bad. Amateur hour plus too many cooks and only doing the part they liked. The first one I had any success with was Mandrake 7.2, but it wasn't sufficiently complete for an everyday desktop. But I did like KDE, far as I got. I still prefer it. > A friend recommended a debian-based distro. I forget what it was called > but it was the FOSS version of Correl Linux. It didn't even have a fancy > graphical installer, but it worked! They stopped maintaining it, so I > migrated to another debian based distro. I am surprised but I have finally > forgotten the name! The fellow who maintained it passed away after a couple > of releases, so I migrated to debian proper. If you want to run WordPerfect for linux, you have to run Corel Linux as the OS. Tho it's reportedly not very stable. > Now Ubuntu is a different animal. Despite being debian based, I have had > no luck with it. I have an SBC that supposedly only works with it. I got > it installed fine the first time but, when it finally came time to upgrade > to a new version, that resulted in a non-working machine. I loathe Ubuntu, think Gnome makes Win10 look usable, and no longer even look at any flavor of Ubuntu (Kubuntu is the poor relation there, and just not a very good incarnation of KDE). > I have tried it other times in the past and that is always the same > story... I can get it installed and working until it is time for a version > upgrade. I have never had a version upgrade that resulted in a working > machine afterwards. With the SBC or linux in general? Here... no SBCs but assorted random PCs. Used to be until about 7-8 years ago you could COUNT on doing a full reinstall, because version upgrade almost never worked, and sometimes updates didn't work either. Since I regard reinstalling as a mortal sin, this was a total dealbreaker for me. But it's been a lot better since: Devuan wasn't quite right after the most recent update (not upgrade). Don't recall quite what, like it messed up some of my visual settings or something. Not a regular use setup so didn't much care, I'll probably just redo it from scratch and hope they've fixed whatever. My Fedora setup has been ugraded from v32 to v39 and I see v40 is out. Upgrade is an overnight job but I have not so far had it screw up. It has sometimes told me "if you want to clean up this mess, input this command" and I did and it fixed whatever hadn't upgraded. This is its way of preventing dependency hell, I guess. I only use the CLI for updates because I don't like Discover. I've been doing this long enough that I have all the update/upgrade command in the buffer and it's just up-arrow enter. PCLOS is rolling so there is no such thing as upgrade, and updates are continuous. Occasional minor glitches but overall I find I prefer rolling... problems get fixed a LOT faster. Synaptic is ugly but it works really nice for updates. There's a Debian install in the stack, but I dislike Debian (even with KDE desktop) and since I never use it, haven't been arsed to update it. I suppose it's a full version up by now. > That SBC now runs debian proper just fine. That should be true for any hardware that "requires" some downstream distro. Frex, if it wants Ubuntu, there's no reason it can't run Debian... so long as it's compiled for that CPU. þ RNET 2.10U: ILink: Techware BBS þ Hollywood, Ca þ www.techware2k.com --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .