Subj : Slimmed down Debian To : Ky Moffet From : Barry Martin Date : Thu Aug 29 2019 19:32:00 Hi Ky! > > > FWIW just saw an article where "after four years of using systemd, the > > Debian derivative Knoppix has removed the controversial Linux init > > system." > > https://www.techrepublic.com/article/knoppix-8-6-first-wide-public-relea > > se-to-abandon-systemd/ > KM> Huh. That's very interesting. We were just debating its worth > KM> over on the PCLOS forum. Or rather, someone asked if PCLOS would > KM> ever move to it, and debate ensued. > Who won?! KM> Not systemd. ;) Hmmm! > KM> It was asked why no one has forked systemd, and gotten rid of the > KM> problem parts. Forks have been attempted at least twice that I > KM> could find, and neither really went anywhere. This > KM> back-adaptation from Knoppix may be rather more viable, since > KM> it's being done in an established (if small) distro. > I'll admit to this kind of stuff being in my collection of Black Boxes. > Someone else figured it out, I just plug it in and it works. When > something doens't work/work right then I start opening the Black Box. KM> Yeah, for the most part it falls under I just want the durn thing KM> to work, and I don't care how. The main thing that gave me hives KM> is logfiles in binary format. Okay, what if the system won't KM> start -- how do you read the logfile (say with a boot/rescue KM> disk) to see what went wrong? Get out your magic decoder ring and start 'binaryfying'! ...At least with the Windows 0x error codes the code number itself didn't mean anything to a human but at least knew to plug that sequence in to the Search Engine. With binary -- all just one's and zero's. KM> I do like the idea of containers, tho, and being able to KM> start/stop services on the fly. And stopping then starting is usually a 'specific reboot': the service locks up or otherwise doesn't work properly, or even just had an update -- stop and restart and the works like new! KM> Then again, Wayland's design is way saner than X's design, but KM> you need much newer hardware to get Wayland to work at all, let KM> alone WELL. Probably why X sticks around: some old hardware out there (not just here at the house!). > KM> Oh, and Knoppix's Adriane (text to speech) desktop works GREAT, > KM> except for the fact that I could not find a way to turn it off!! > I'm resisting any sterotypical comments on gender! > ...www.TheAdrianProject.com KM> Pollen count high there too?! > https://github.com/TheAdrianProject/AdrianSmartAssistant > > Start Application > > ./adrian.sh > > Stop Application > The application can be stopped any time pressing CTRL+C . To then > clear memory & kill all depedencies the below command can be run: > > ./stop.sh KM> Oh, NOW you tell me! You didn't ask! > Update Adrian > in the AdrianSmartAssistant folder execute the below command. Before > execution commit all of your local changes. > > ./update.sh > > Well, seems like ^C would be an obvious keyboard action. Something else > overriding it? Thinking along the lines of Keyboard Shortcuts. KM> Since I couldn't find anything menu-ish, and nothing that I knew KM> to do worked... well, I wasn't that enamored of Knoppix anyway, KM> and we got divorced. But it did work really well as a screen KM> reader. But did you have to use the "W.C. Fields" voice option on me?! ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... I never drink water because of disgusting things fish do in it.-WC Fields --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .