Subj : USB lock up - poo! To : Ky Moffet From : Barry Martin Date : Mon Feb 14 2022 07:38:00 Hi Ky! > Now for the CPU. Looks like between an i5 12600K and i7 12700K (leaning KM> https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-12700K-vs-Inte Thanks for the links -- I'll check them out later and compare to what I have found so far. KM> The main diff being that at 190W peak, the i7 is harder to keep KM> cool. Well I didn't find that but did find the two are essentially the same. KM> Fact is the stock cooler usually scrapes by, so better is not an KM> emergency if you're just doing everyday stuff and not gaming or I'm planning on using a much better cooler, especially after the fiasco with the "recommended by AMD" cooler on the FX-8320 in this computer: fine at first, then started occasionally revving fans, then mysteriously shutting down. Installed pSensor and some logging: the temperature is what before it shuts down?!?!! Install a CoolerMaster Hypo Evo 212, generally stays around the 100øF / 40øC mark. KM> https://www.pcgamer.com/intels-upcoming-alder-lake-stock-cooler-ge KM> ts-tested/ KM> What looks so-so but has a copper core will outperform what looks KM> great but has an aluminum core. Personally I don't care too much what the inside looks like: I don't see it unless I'm working inside. And outside I prefer plain. KM> I replaced the stock aluminum cooler on the old AMD with a solid KM> copper unit (not much better otherwise), and dropped base temp by KM> 20 degrees. Yup: you'd probabably see the same with a current one based on my experience. I know it costs money to have a better cooler but seems like it would be worth to not have the reputation tarnished with a bad recommendation. Or offer a good and better option, then recommended for lower and higher CPU usage. ¯ BarryMartin3@ ® ¯ @MyMetronet.NET ® .... Useless Fact: Zebras didn't invent algebra. --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .