Subj : Re: Slimmed down Debian
To   : Barry Martin
From : Ky Moffet
Date : Wed Aug 28 2019 16:09:00

BARRY MARTIN wrote:
> Hi Ky!
> 
>   > FWIW just saw an article where "after four years of using systemd, the
>   > Debian derivative Knoppix has removed the controversial Linux init
>   > system."
>   > https://www.techrepublic.com/article/knoppix-8-6-first-wide-public-relea
>   > se-to-abandon-systemd/
>   KM> Huh. That's very interesting. We were just debating its worth
>   KM> over on the PCLOS forum. Or rather, someone asked if PCLOS would
>   KM> ever move to it, and debate ensued.
> 
> Who won?! <gg>

Not systemd. ;)

>   KM> It was asked why no one has forked systemd, and gotten rid of the
>   KM> problem parts. Forks have been attempted at least twice that I
>   KM> could find, and neither really went anywhere. This
>   KM> back-adaptation from Knoppix may be rather more viable, since
>   KM> it's being done in an established (if small) distro.
> 
> I'll admit to this kind of stuff being in my collection of Black Boxes.
> Someone else figured it out, I just plug it in and it works.  When
> something doens't work/work right then I start opening the Black Box.

Yeah, for the most part it falls under I just want the durn thing to 
work, and I don't care how. The main thing that gave me hives is 
logfiles in binary format. Okay, what if the system won't start -- how 
do you read the logfile (say with a boot/rescue disk) to see what went 
wrong?

I do like the idea of containers, tho, and being able to start/stop 
services on the fly.

Then again, Wayland's design is way saner than X's design, but you need 
much newer hardware to get Wayland to work at all, let alone WELL.

> 
>   KM> Oh, and Knoppix's Adriane (text to speech) desktop works GREAT,
>   KM> except for the fact that I could not find a way to turn it off!!
> 
> <snortle!> I'm resisting any sterotypical comments on gender!
>   ...www.TheAdrianProject.com

<snork>

> 
> https://github.com/TheAdrianProject/AdrianSmartAssistant
> 
>    Start Application
> 
>         ./adrian.sh
> 
>    Stop Appilication
>    The application can be stopped any time pressing CTRL+C . To then
>    clear memory & kill all depedencies the below command can be  run:
> 
>         ./stop.sh

Oh, NOW you tell me!

>    Update Adrian
>    in the AdrianSmartAssistant folder execute the below command.  Before
>    execution commit all of your local changes.
> 
>         ./update.sh
> 
> Well, seems like ^C would be an obvious keyboard action.  Something else
> overriding it?  Thinking along the lines of Keyboard Shortcuts.

Since I couldn't find anything menu-ish, and nothing that I knew to do 
worked... well, I wasn't that enamored of Knoppix anyway, and we got 
divorced. <g> But it did work really well as a screen reader.
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