Subj : Too many? :) To : Ky Moffet From : Barry Martin Date : Mon Sep 21 2020 07:25:00 Hi Ky! > > > > |-- !Unsorted > > | |-- 4MLinux-31.0-32bit.iso > > | |-- ALive-15.0.iso > > | |-- AVLinux-isotester-x64-2019.4.10.iso > > > > Too many 'Unsorted', yes! > KM> Haha... yeah, the debate is whether I should sort 'em purely by > KM> distro, or make a tree hierarchy by family, which appeals to my > KM> sense of organization, but I'd never find half of 'em again, cuz > KM> who remembers that Some Obscure Distro was based on a derivative > KM> of Debian by way of Ubuntu via Mint? and then there's the ones > KM> that jump ship, like LMDE. > My initial thought was to follow that which appeals to your sense of > organization -- after all, your compilation! KM> Yeah, and then I realized I'd run the pathnames out to a day's KM> hike from the prompt... and then what do you do with something KM> like DebianDog (or worse, DevuanDog) which is really Debian but KM> lives in the Puppy ecosystem? Ummm, multiple listings? KM> Bah. "Unsorted". :D Sounds like the joke about the secretary who filed everything under "M" for "Miscellaneous"! Actually as long as it can be found relatively easily it doesn't matter where it is. > As for the 'never find again' aspect, simply use a Find or Search > option? Start from near the top and have computer drill down and locate > for you. KM> Oh, but when you can't remember what some obscure spin called KM> itself... BTDT - sometimes with the titles of my own files! KM> This actually happened with ... I believe it was JULinux (Just KM> Use linux) or possibly a variant that remains unrediscovered... KM> All I could remember is that the default wallpaper had Tux as KM> Jesus. Which was extremely funny but not enough to make the NAME KM> stick in my head! That's why the durn ISO is appended "Jesus KM> linux". (Or should be. I need to download another for my KM> collection.) Hence the spreadsheet-type form with the Notes column! > Another option might be a 'Map' file. Might be a big spreadsheet -- use > an actual spreadsheet utility of just columns in a (landspace oriented) > text file. Thinking something like a listing of the filename, > derivation information, bits (16, 32, 64, etc.), possibly notes ("works > up to 386", "Died with Y2K"). KM> I've tried a few of those antiquities... for the most part they KM> give me hives. Interesting conceptually, tho... I rarely use spreadsheets the utility but sometimes use the concept in a regular text editor. Guess it's more the concept of "everything is organized in columns". KM> KM> Have you SEEN the family tree? it's... astonishing.... > KM> https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=family-tree > It looks just like the one in Chemistry classes! KM> Funny, that... Just another form of organization. ...Wonder if it could be classified as a 'spreadsheet'? > The 'curvey' one at the bottom looked neat -- I did click to view and > the original was more legible; just couldn't expand sufficiently. KM> Turns out that one is more up to date... It was definitely more detailed KM> === Hmm: sort of a marker for a message break! Or maybe just a marker of restart point.... KM> So a couple of install adventures.... let's use Fireball, who has KM> lots of horsepower and nothing better to do, and some random KM> blank HD... KM> Mageia would not run live. 40 minutes to install, and then ran KM> not very well. Lots of stuff does not work. They've made it KM> worse. Stopped paying attention after about the third KM> nonfunctional annoyance and made it go away. Yes, I sort of also go by the "if it doesn't install right it's not good for me" when trying out software. KM> So there's finally a KDE-on-Debian that at least looks decent KM> live. Let's try that... if we can figure out the damn KM> partitioner. Not sure what took it so long but it didn't actually KM> do anything; here's Mageia's /home still intact (well, at least I KM> didn't have to redo my KDE settings), in part because it wouldn't KM> let me change it. Two hours later it's finally installed.... at KM> first it was really sluggish; seems to have gotten better. Doing an automatic backup of some sort? Creating a journal? KM> Letting it run updates, but I don't see anything to induce me to KM> switch. Only reason to not nuke it is that the installer is a KM> major PITA and I don't want to do it again, ever. Makes Windows KM> installs look simple. The problem might be your slow data line. I have done a couple of Raspbian creations and what used to take an hour with the 7 Mbps DSL now only takes (guesing) ten minutes with the fiber optic service. Unfortunately you can't do much about the data rate they give you but just thinking it's a possibility. Seems even during the installation things are being checked/called to The Internet. KM> PCLOS has spoiled me. Installs in 5 minutes flat (even with my KM> 3GB of added stuff) and a handful of clicks, nothing to configure KM> and all works OOTB. That takes all the challenge out! ¯ BarryMartin3@ ® ¯ @MyMetronet.NET ® .... Trench warfare should be a last ditch effort. --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .