Subj : Re: Slimmed down Debian To : Barry Martin From : Ky Moffet Date : Fri Jul 31 2020 23:08:00 BARRY MARTIN wrote: > Hi Ky! > KM> So he got proof that it was bad (because I sent it back) but he > KM> didn't have to pay the return postage (because he refused it). > > Sort of something like when a household appliance fails and the > manufacturer just wants the cord sent back. If the cord is integrated I've never had to do that, but yeah, same principle. > > As for the finding the contact (or possibly non-contact) point -- good > KM> Need higher magnification! > > Need a microscope! Or at least one of those lens-and-light contraptions you hang on your face! > > > I think it's "measure twice, cut once", not the other way around! > > KM> I cut it three times, and it's STILL too short!! > > But is it getting better? > KM> No, but the pile of sawdust is getting bigger! > The termites are impressed with your work! I am not impressed with the termites. (Tried to type 'turnips'.) > > So slowly accustoming yourself to civilization! Though > KM> It's embarrassing > > I can't decide between visualizing you as the male version of Goldilocks/ > Cinderella/some Disney character in a flowing gown and the birds singing > and landing on your shoulders or a snarling werewolf-like caveman -- > either would work in the privacy of a forest but not so good in town. Snarling Cinderella. > KM> Had similar problem... flaws they could tell were there but not > KM> where, and fixing this didn't fix that... their guy finally gave > KM> up and just rewired the house, AND buried new cable out to the > KM> street. > > Too bad he didn't use waterproof cable! Haha, well, I hope it was waterproof... temporary cable laid on the ground all winter! > KM> Who ever heard of using .4.x ??! > Metronet I guess! Or EERO - the router manufacturer. Never heard of 'em, which might be the problem... standards? whose?? > > KM> [Speaking of freight: we're on day 12 for a priority parcel from > > KM> the Bay area, tho it's finally made it to Billings... 9 days for > > KM> the previous two from CA... methinks CA's mail system is totally > > KM> busted.] > > Overnight -- you didn't specify which night!! > KM> Apparently not! > > Ever get it? Yes, on day 15! four days for the last ten miles... Client in L.A. area beats that, tho -- today he reports 21 days for a small parcel. Must be vacation season... they're all taking the scenic route! > KM> Yeah. STOP FIXING STUFF ALREADY!!! > No, fixing/correcting is fine, it's the breaking of stuiff that used to > work is the problem! Is that the problem? I thought they said it was fixed!! > > I know I don't have any laptop-sized memory 'in stock'. > KM> Heh... neither do I. Well, from this century, anyway. > Even if was twenty years old and it might work I'm sure you would have > tried it. Sadly, it suffers from the same issue as desktop memory.. it comes in a dozen formats, all mutually incompatible. > OK - I'm thinking a constant voltage applied to the speaker would just > move the cone once and no sound, wheras the same constant voltage to the > LED would light it constantly and so be useful. Speakers need an > oscillating or pulsing voltage, which applied to the LED would cause it > to flicker, though fast enough would appear on but possibly dim. Well, how much does a case speaker do? It just beeps... > True! One sometimes has a 50-50 chance if plugged in right. If the > speaker doesn't beep and it's supposed to flip around. Preferably > before buttoning up the case! I'm not sure they care... > > KM> blood on the components. > > So that begs the qyuestion: can dried blood be used as a electrical > > insulator? And what's it R thermal factor? > KM> Probably not... might contain enough iron to be micro-conductive. > KM> R is probably about the same as 'thermal grease', toothpaste, and > KM> vegemite (no real difference). > > Never tasted thermal grease -- wonder if better or worse than vegemite? Hmm. That's a hard question!! > KM> Only so-called thermal grease I've seen that's actually better > KM> than just filling any air gaps with literally any handy goo > KM> (toothpaste, vegemite, spit...) is copper-based. Should get some > KM> more of that.... > > If you order a Raspberry Pi 4 kit by Viros and it's the one with the > metal heatsink case it comes with a small tube of thermal compound. > Don't know what it's composition is. Most of 'em are probably chemically vaseline plus toothpaste. Well, here's a discussion: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/what-are-the-ingredients-in-thermal-paste/ OH! Someone referenced it! http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm > KM> Trouble is, whatever a person thinks of first invariably > KM> sticks... > > "Peezapoop"?! To the computer, not the wall!! > KM> Right now I have Confusion. Cash is doing Silver's old job, using > KM> Silver's old HDs. Silver is now called Tarnish, but at the moment > KM> has Cash's old PCLOS in it (which fortunately doesn't call itself > KM> Cash, so no network-names conflict). Silver's old case with new > KM> guts is now called Silver II, but presently has Lightfoot's Win7 > KM> in it (Lightfoot being semi-retired). > > So do your computer cases have name tags on them?! No, but a couple have numbers, so I can remember which keyboard/mouse belongs to each (for those that won't speak to USB-via-KVM -- seems to be a hardware thing, not OS. Why of three identical Dells, will only one speak to the USB-via-KVM? Yet Fireball will no matter which OS, including clones of the OS installs from the Dells.) > > > "ThermalTake". And I have a case for a project that's been on hold > > > from Raijintek - oh poop! > > KM> It's better if you can pronounce 'em... > > Maybe that will be it's name: "Unpronounceable" or maybe "Mumble"! > KM> Hahaha yes... just don't complain when it doesn't come when > KM> called! > Unless it's the robotics project! Here, Doggie! Have you seen Atlas doing parkour? :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LikxFZZO2sk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sBBaNYex3E I wish my gyro worked that good! > > Wait until you get in a car with the rear window wiper switch is on the > > right sticky-out thing: accidentally pull on it while rotating to > > activate the (front) windshield wipers!! > KM> I remember first time I drove one with switches on the stalk... > KM> could not for the life of me figure out how to turn on the > KM> headlights or run the wipers!! > > And of course one doesn't think of figuring out where those controls wre > until it's dark or raining! This was the problem! > KM> Such as... apparently Fireball has no IDE support. Add-on card is > KM> seen but not heard... won't boot with IDE anything attached. Did > KM> finally get XP64 installed, but had to switch SATA to IDE mode > KM> (then why do we not support IDE HDs?), and apparently it required > KM> part of a failed install to be there first. I swear it finally > KM> installed by sheer failure to remember that it had decided it was > KM> impossible. > > Good Grief!! As for the IDE card beding seen but not heard, that sort > of makes sense. I had a external HDD adapter which I used occasionally; > suddenly stopped working. Problem was the 'identification code' was no > longer listed so the operating system didn't know what to do with it. > (The 'list' was on the OS side -- could have plugged the external drive > into a system with an older OS version and it would have worked.) Oh, you mean that code USB stuff gets individually ID'd with? > KM> And now need to find Intel C600 SAS driver for XP64 (and for > KM> Win7)... Lenovo's provided SAS driver is for the wrong chip (LSI, > KM> which is not what it is). PCLOS found it just fine... well, it is > KM> an old chip. > > Sounds similar to mey external HDD adapter issue. Nah, this is just Lenovo's provided download is the wrong driver. > KM> I have a few of those $3 USB WiFi dongles... if you get 'em with > OK , so that pretty much verifies it's 'them' and not 'me'. Haven't had > any other connection issues so was pretty sure the problem was in the > notebook. ...Still waiting for the dongle: ordered super-cheap from > Amazon from an overseas vendor; wasn't in any big rush. And what I > think is funny is my old-probably-antique Lenovo T61 laptop (possibly > 2007) has 5 GHz Wifi and the HP notebook doesn't. I only have one with ac wireless, and it sure does hog the network -- won't share gracefully. Or maybe that's Win8.1 (what that laptop came with). HOWEVER... with Win10, the cheap n dongles get the same speed.. so Win10 does ONE thing right! > > KM> Well, I could use two laptop drives in the single 3.5" internal > > KM> bay, and an NVMe on an adapter in the 4x PCI3 slot, but... since > > KM> I have other options, why?? still inflexible once you put the lid > > KM> back on. > > Duct tape and 3D printing come to mind! > KM> There's the next generation in PC cases!! > Custom create your own!! Is thought... I don't like the newer cases at all, and am glad I hoarded all those old RaidMax cases. Plain beige, all metal, and ten drive bays. Cheap, ugly, and fully functional. > > > KM> Yeah, I have no patience anymore. Either it works easily or out > > > KM> it goes. > > > Time is money! LIS I've done the same over the years with my various > > KM> If time flies when you throw a clock, I want to come back as DB > > KM> Cooper. > > Assuming he was able to spend his money! > KM> Well, they never found the money... and I don't have it... :( > Some day someone will be exploring a bear or wolf den... Haha, could very well be... > > KM> Snipping rest or I'll never get this sent... > > KM> "Did you write the Great American Novel?" > > KM> "No, just an average reply on the BBS." > > Really! I'm showing 491 lines, which I think would be about 8 pages if > > printed out -- just a phamphlet! > KM> A mere short story.! > I/we did snip some! I'm showing this is line 389. :) Shorter yet! > > .. ERROR: Computer is way too old for this nonsense. > KM> ERROR: User is way too old for this nonsense. > All this nonsense is way too old! 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