Subj : Re: MS-DOS Emulation -use To : Barry Martin From : Ky Moffet Date : Fri Jul 31 2020 21:22:00 BARRY MARTIN wrote: > Hi Ky! > KM> If I had to bet, I'd be looking at the FILES= statement in > KM> CONFIG.SYS -- due to some cranks left over from the MSDOS4.x era, > KM> some programs, and therefore Win3.1x itself, needed them set to > KM> some ridiculously high number. > > That would almost make sense: here it seemed as if a buffer/holding area > of some sort was being overloaded/overfilled as always worked for a > little while and then stopped. The amount of time varied: sometimes When it ran out of file handles, probably. Windows could scrape by on 20 (IIRC) but as soon as you run something else... kablooie. > almost immediately to a few minutes. Would be nice to be able to go > back and check. Time machine needs rebooting? :D > KM> all was well. (And Windows never, ever crashed again, nor even > KM> misbehaved in any noteworthy way. Seven years without a single > KM> crash!) > > Seven days is considered a long time!! Not in MY house! > KM> You may note a common theme here... the problem was that DOS4.x > KM> didn't close files properly on disk, and apparently these > KM> programs compensated, which was disagreeable to other DOS > KM> versions (and thereby caused the very files-left-open problem it > KM> was supposed to prevent). > > One fix for a problem creates a problem which needs to be fixed Haha, so it goes! > elsewhere. Which sort of makes points for having a base operating > system and seperate applications/utilites as opposed to having those > applications and utilities built into the OS. Seems like separate and > independent would be easier to correct without screwing up something > else. (Still a possibilty, just less so.) Or why I'm a big fan of portable apps, and why we have Flatpak and AppImage for linux (given DLL Hell has NOTHING on Dependency Hell). > KM> Yeah, I wound up using it because the person who got me started > KM> on this stuff was a DRDOS enthusiast, but fact was it wasn't > > Something like when I got started with Linux. The utility I was using > at the time for recording TV was MythDora, which is based on Fedora. > ..Hmm: so why did I go Ubuntu instead of Fedora?? There's no excuse for Ubuntu. Seriously, it makes Win10 seem agreeable... > KM> retired, I never messed with it again., Nowadays when I use DOS, > KM> by preference it's MSDOS7 from Win98 (with the 8.0 mouse driver). > I'll admit to not really needing to return to the Old Stuff, mainly > because nothing I'm using needs it, though some does use NonCurrent Yeah, I'm down to just a couple things that need Old Stuff, and some year I'll find me a Pascal programmer and get the 16bit DOS pedigree program converted to 32bit Windows. Or x64 linux, as the case may be. > Stuff! Glad I learned the more or less bare bones MS-DOS and early > Windows: great for troubleshooting as I sort of understand what is > happening. Indeed... I can feel baffled often enough without lacking these old foundations! > > KM> Geez, look what happens when you stir the ancient sludge in the > KM> sewers of Ky's brain... > > So there was this article about how the Thames River was London's sewer > and during droughts..... .....they found Ubuntu CDs?? :D þ RNET 2.10U: ILink: Techware BBS þ Hollywood, Ca þ www.techware2k.com --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .